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YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by snapplebobapple »

benbristow wrote: post #18
INTPenis wrote: post #7

In my circle, piracy is making a comeback. We're tired of having to hunt down streaming services, and be extorted for hundreds of euro a month, just to see ads for their own programs. Streaming was fun for a while, but as always these greedy execs are ruining it.

Too many services nowadays. Was fine when it was just Netflix, had mostly everything, no ads, full quality. Nowadays Netflix price has gone up, additional plans for 4K/no-ads, anti-account sharing and less content as content now has gone to Amazon/Disney+/Hulu/Discovery+/Paramount+/Peacock/HBO etc. etc. Even if you subscribed to them all you'd still not have everything. Sailing the seas, you get everything for free o…

This is what copyright does though by design. Everyone leverages the monopoly granted by government to maximize profit because its way easier to force people to your service for maximum profit and compete (n offerings rather than everyone ha>ing the same offerings and competing on price and user experience. This is also causing the crazy market dislocation from hige show budgets because they are tryingto invest in their competitive edge when creativity doesnt work on big budgets at all. it needs a constraint to push on.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by ryandrake »

ssl-3 wrote: post #66
TechSquidTV wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pirated for many years until Netflix had everything when I was in high school. Roughly around the time I got a job I stopped pirating games and bought everything on Steam. There is still some annoyance with other launchers besides Steam but, I endure. Its been a long time now but probably around when South Park left Netflix, I started pirating again. Now I have a massive Plex server and home lab dedicated to piracy…

Why so much? Plex is a pretty light-weight system as long as transcoding is avoided or it has hardware transcoding available to use. And wrangling Usenet is a fairly simple affair on vaguely modern PC hardware, too. So all of that stuff runs in the background on the same desktop Linux box that I also use for everything else. Am I doing it wrong?

As "lightweight" as it is, you don't even need Plex or a "media server" software. My "media server" has been "files on an NFS share" which has worked for me for the last 15-20 years.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by mouse_ »

rjdj377dhabsn wrote: post #32
mouse_ wrote: post #10

I swear to God, I can't go three clicks on YouTube without seeing a recommended video like "BASED Trump OWNS woke moralist!" Every time I see anything like that, I'm always clicking not interested, don't recommend channel, etc. But it doesn't help. I would think it's something to do with my searches, or someone in my household watching this sort of content behind my back, but if you look at the front page of YouTube…

Why even look at the recommendations? Just watch videos that you searched for or those from known accounts. If you can't help yourself scrolling through the recommendations, there are browser extensions that will hide them.

Those extensions are ostrich hats

https://calisphere.org/clip/500x500/26157/0c7951eaf2251821c1...

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

ssl-3 wrote: post #66
TechSquidTV wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pirated for many years until Netflix had everything when I was in high school. Roughly around the time I got a job I stopped pirating games and bought everything on Steam. There is still some annoyance with other launchers besides Steam but, I endure. Its been a long time now but probably around when South Park left Netflix, I started pirating again. Now I have a massive Plex server and home lab dedicated to piracy…

Why so much? Plex is a pretty light-weight system as long as transcoding is avoided or it has hardware transcoding available to use. And wrangling Usenet is a fairly simple affair on vaguely modern PC hardware, too. So all of that stuff runs in the background on the same desktop Linux box that I also use for everything else. Am I doing it wrong?

People use separate computers for wide range of reasons. My desktop isn't always running Linux for example, or even from the same partition always, and to run something 24/7 I need to host it not on my for-work desktop. I also run some less trusted software on separate server and network than say Home Assistant and Frigate.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by crtasm »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #51
TechSquidTV wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pirated for many years until Netflix had everything when I was in high school. Roughly around the time I got a job I stopped pirating games and bought everything on Steam. There is still some annoyance with other launchers besides Steam but, I endure. Its been a long time now but probably around when South Park left Netflix, I started pirating again. Now I have a massive Plex server and home lab dedicated to piracy…

> probably around when South Park left Netflix, I started pirating again Unrelated, but fun example as South Park is probably the only show on TV that also let people watch the entire show (-latest seasons it seems) for free online! https://www.southparkstudios.com/seasons/south-park Been like that (in many places) for many many years at this point too :)

Depends where you are, I only see short clips on there.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by jonesjohnson »

I really love newpipe[1]. No ads, continue playing with screen switched off, download option, and i appreciate the lack of recommendations (This way I only see news from the channels I'm subscribed to and don't get drawn into a recommendation-loop).

I'm not sure what will happen to it once google enforces their developer registration thing [2]. I assume that f-droid and newpipe will still work on rooted phones, but in general I don't like the direction in which this is going...

[1] https://newpipe.net/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45409794

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by crtasm »

cft wrote: post #20

We need a politically uncensored version (within the law) of YouTube. Things like Rumble do not work well, they are not technically polished. It's a good side project for X.

Peertube exists, anyone could run (or pay a host to run) a server in the network

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by ryandrake »

pengaru wrote: post #43
hectdev wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a tool like anything else. I learn SO MUCH from Youtube. Watching someone DIY something where they show all the steps, makes it so accessible. I then learn from them and create some really intricate things from different domains without any formal training. I'm talking car repairs, electrical engineering, woodworking, metal work, gardening, 3d printing. The list goes on and on.

It's true... but such an awful double edged sword. I have quite a bit of experience as an auto mechanic, and love using youtube to find footage of something I'm considering doing or some item I'm considering buying. Just the effort+time savings alone is a game changer. Previously I would download FSMs for something I was considering acquiring to see what it's really like to work on / maintain / something of the inter…

The major problem with relying on YouTube content for general automotive diagnosis and repair is that it doesn't tend to be general purpose. It's always "how this one guy fixed this one problem on this one car." A video could have a title like "Fixing a 2002 Toyota Corolla that won't start" but all it shows is the guy jumping right into replacing his fuel pump. There can be many other reasons that a 2002 Corolla won't start, but you're going to have to search through 100s of other videos to find the one that exactly matches your car's root cause, which you don't know until you diagnose it yourself.

The repair steps tend to range from so-so to excellent. The diagnosis steps are almost always very lacking.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by crtasm »

cft wrote: post #76
pstuart wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We need a politically uncensored version (within the law) of YouTube What does that mean "politically uncensored within the law"?

Means for example, that this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnR4Xw74_is had only 70% of the algorithmic views (YouTube "suggestions" or "related content"). They did not ban it outright, so you cannot complain or rigorously prove their bias, but they algorithmically suppress dissenting content.

Even if that's true it's not censorship, stop misusing the word.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by ssl-3 »

rjdj377dhabsn wrote: post #32
mouse_ wrote: post #10

I swear to God, I can't go three clicks on YouTube without seeing a recommended video like "BASED Trump OWNS woke moralist!" Every time I see anything like that, I'm always clicking not interested, don't recommend channel, etc. But it doesn't help. I would think it's something to do with my searches, or someone in my household watching this sort of content behind my back, but if you look at the front page of YouTube…

Why even look at the recommendations? Just watch videos that you searched for or those from known accounts. If you can't help yourself scrolling through the recommendations, there are browser extensions that will hide them.

Because recommendations can be useful for discovering new things?

I watch all kinds of great stuff on youtube that I enjoy, over a pretty broad range that starts with building drag racing cars and ends with videos of quietly walking through Japanese cities at night.

Somewhere in between those points lies more-technical presenters with a knack for cleanly delivering the best technical explanations they know how to make -- people like Geerling, Lovett, Wendell, Hillhouse, Jones, and Black.

I learn a ton from these people, and I was first introduced to their youtube channels by The Algorithm.

Meanwhile: I never, ever get weird MAGA spam or political hate on YouTube -- and I never have.

Through years of mostly very passive training, the algorithm treats me pretty well, actually.

A browse through my youtube recommendations mostly shows a bunch of engineering, machining, and car topics. Stuff that is replete with general pleasantness, and that is devoid of politics.

Even the clickbait is dialed down nearly to zero.

And maybe that makes sense, for me, since nobody but me has ever used my youtube account for anything -- and therefore, nobody has ever had an opportunity to piss in my well.

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