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Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Post by mothballed »

oceanplexian wrote: post #56
jason-phillips wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got pulled aside because I absentmindedly showed them my concealed carry permit, not my driver's license. I told them I was a consultant working for their local government and was going back to Austin. No harm no foul.

If the system used any kind of logic whatsoever a CCW permit would not only allow you to bypass airport security but also carry in the airport (Speaking as both a pilot and a permit holder) Would probably eliminate the need for the TSA security theater so that will probably never happen.

You can carry in the airport in AZ without a permit, in the unsecured areas. I think there was only one broo-ha-ha because some particularly bold guy did it openly with a rifle (can't remember if there's more to the story).

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Post by yifanl »

MiiMe19 wrote: post #77
mentalgear wrote: post #18

Ah, the coming age of Palantir's all seeing platform; and Peter Thiel becoming the shadow Emperor. Too bad non-deterministic ml systems are prone to errors that risk lives when applied wrongly to crucial parts of society. But in an authoritarian state, those will be hidden away anyway, so there's nothing to see here: move along folks. Yes, surveillance and authoritarianism go hand in hand, ask China. It's important t…

I might be missing something but I don' think this article isn't about palantir or any of their products

You're absolutely right, Palantir just needs a different name and then they'd have no issues.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Post by eastbound »

tamimio wrote: post #59
AuthAuth wrote: post #14

What is happening in the world. There should be some liability for this but nothing will happen.

Law enforcement officers, judicial officials, social workers, and similar generally maintain qualified immunity from liability in the course of their work. This case for example in which judges and social workers allegedly failed to properly assess a mother's fitness for child custody despite repeated indicators suggesting otherwise. The child was ultimately placed in the mother's care, and later was killed in an exe…

Not applicable - As a society we’ve countless times chosen to favour the right of the mother to keep children above the rights of other humans. Most children are killed in the home of the mother (i.e. either by the mother, or where partner choice would have avoided that, while the father was available), or even worde in the Anders Breivik situation (father available with stable job and perspectives in life, but custody refused, child grew up a mass murderer as always).

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Post by tartoran »

rkomorn wrote: post #39
malux85 wrote: post #28

Poor kid, and what an incompetent police department not to use their own judgement …… But …… Doritos should definitely use this as an advertisement, Doritos - The only weapon of mass deliciousness, or something like that And of course pay the kid, so something positive came come out of the experience for him

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Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

AuthAuth wrote: post #14

What is happening in the world. There should be some liability for this but nothing will happen.

The world is doing fairly ok, thank you. The US however I’m not so sure as people here are apparently more concerned by the AI malfunction than with the idea it’s somehow sensible to live monitor high schools for gun threat.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Post by bilbo0s »

rolph wrote: post #4

Omnilert later admitted the incident was a “false positive” but claimed the system “functioned as intended,” saying its purpose is to “prioritize safety and awareness through rapid human verification.” prioritize your own safety by not attending any location fitted with such a system, or deemed to be such a dangerous environment that such a system is desired. the AI "swatted" someone.

Calling it today. This company is going to get innocent kids killed.

How many packs of Twizzlers, or Doritos, or Snickers bars are out there in our schools?

First time it happens, there will be an explosion of protests. Especially now that the public knows that the system isn't working but the authorities kept using it anyway.

This is a really bad idea right now. The technology is just not there yet.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Post by shaky-carrousel »

He could have been easily murdered. It's not the first time by a far margin that a bunch of overzealous cops murder a kid. I would never ever in my life set foot in a place that sends me armed cops so easily. That school is extremely dangerous.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Post by tartoran »

"“We understand how upsetting this was for the individual that was searched as well as the other students who witnessed the incident,” the principal wrote. “Our counselors will provide direct support to the students who were involved.”"

Make them pay money for false positives instead of direct support and counselling. This technology is not ready for production, it should be in a lab not in public buildings such as schools.

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Post by anigbrowl »

malux85 wrote: post #71
proee wrote: post #7

Walking through TSA scanners, I always get that unnerving feeling I will get pulled aside. 50% of the time they flag my cargo pants because of the zipper pockets - There is nothing in them but the scanner doesn't like them. Now we get the privilege of walking by AI security cameras placed in random locations, hoping they don't flag us. There's a ton of money to be made with this kind of global frisking, so lots of pr…

Speak up citizens! Email the state congressman and tell them what you think. Since (pretty much) nobody does this, if a few hundred people do it, they will sit up and take notice. It takes less people than you might think. Since coordinating this with a bunch of strangers (I.e. the public) is difficult, the most effective way is to normalise speaking up in our culture. Of course normalising it will increase the incom…

If that's the case, why do people in Congress keep voting for things their constituents don't like? When they get booed at town halls they just dismiss it as being the work of paid activists.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Post by mpeg »

proee wrote: post #7

Walking through TSA scanners, I always get that unnerving feeling I will get pulled aside. 50% of the time they flag my cargo pants because of the zipper pockets - There is nothing in them but the scanner doesn't like them. Now we get the privilege of walking by AI security cameras placed in random locations, hoping they don't flag us. There's a ton of money to be made with this kind of global frisking, so lots of pr…

To be fair, at least you can choose not to wear the cargo pants.

A friend of mine once got pulled aside for extra checks and questioning after he had already gone through the scanners, because he was waiting for me on the other side to walk to the gates together and the agent didn't like that he was "loitering" – guess his ethnicity...

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