I don't know if not getting the idea right, but I'm pretty sure people refer to AI outputs as "slop" not due to (only) repetitiveness. According to some sources: [1] Wikipedia > AI slop is digital content made with generative artificial intelligence, specifically when perceived to show a lack of effort, quality or deeper meaning, and an overwhelming volume of production.[1][4][5] Coined in the 2020s, the term has a p…
Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models
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Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models
#82I've been using ChatGPT fairly regularly for about a year. Mostly as an editor/brainstorming-partner/copy-reviewer. Lots of things have changed in that year, but the things that haven't are: * So, so many em-dashes. All over the place. (I've tried various ways to get it to stop. None of them have worked long term). * Random emojis. * Affirmations at the start of messages. ("That's a great idea!") With a brief pause w…
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Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models
#84I'd love to see a benchmark that tests different LLMs for slop, not necessarily limited to code. That might be even more interesting than ARC-AGI.
Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models
#85I've been using ChatGPT fairly regularly for about a year. Mostly as an editor/brainstorming-partner/copy-reviewer. Lots of things have changed in that year, but the things that haven't are: * So, so many em-dashes. All over the place. (I've tried various ways to get it to stop. None of them have worked long term). * Random emojis. * Affirmations at the start of messages. ("That's a great idea!") With a brief pause w…
Ah, you've hit a classic problem with :smile_with_sweat_drop:. Your intuition is right-- but let me clarify some subtleties...
Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models
#86Chatgpt-5: Oof—-gotcha here’s how I’d handle that Clutch choice—-here’s a few refinements Sweet—-let me just… Ok, here’s the receipts I love your passion! Let’s try to keep it civil ok? (Thinking) the user still appears annoyed —————————————- I think this annoys them also and yet they can’t change it? Or are they not dogfooding?
Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models
#87I've been using ChatGPT fairly regularly for about a year. Mostly as an editor/brainstorming-partner/copy-reviewer. Lots of things have changed in that year, but the things that haven't are: * So, so many em-dashes. All over the place. (I've tried various ways to get it to stop. None of them have worked long term). * Random emojis. * Affirmations at the start of messages. ("That's a great idea!") With a brief pause w…
I notice this less with GPT-5 and GPT-5-Codex but it has a new problem: it'll write a sentence that mostly makes sense but have one or two strange word choices that nobody would use in that situation. It tends to use a lot of very dense jargon that makes it hard to read, spitting out references to various algorithms and concepts in places that don't actually make sense for them to be. Also yesterday Codex refused a t…
Was this after many iterations? Try letting it get some "sleep". Hear me out...
I haven't used Codex, so maybe not relevant, but with Claude I always notice a slow degradation in quality, refusals, and "" placeholders with iterations within the same context window. One time, after making a mistake, it apologized and said something like "that's what I get for writing code at 2am". Statistically, this makes sense: long conversations between developers would go into the night, and they get tired, their code gets sparser and crappier.
So, I told it "Ok, let's get some sleep and do this tomorrow.", then the very next message (since the LLM has no concept of time), "Good morning! Let's do this!" and bam, output a completely functional, giant, block of code.
Human behavior is deeeeep in the statistics.
Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models
#88This is the epitome of patching symptoms rather than treating the disease. Even if you suppress the obvious syntactic slop like 'it's not X but Y', you have no reason to believe you've fixed mode-collapse on higher more important levels like semantics and creativity. (For example, Claude LLMs have always struck me as mode-collapsed on a semantic level: they don't have the blatant verbal tics of 4o but somehow they st…
Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models
#89I've been using ChatGPT fairly regularly for about a year. Mostly as an editor/brainstorming-partner/copy-reviewer. Lots of things have changed in that year, but the things that haven't are: * So, so many em-dashes. All over the place. (I've tried various ways to get it to stop. None of them have worked long term). * Random emojis. * Affirmations at the start of messages. ("That's a great idea!") With a brief pause w…
Or... How can you detect the usage of Claude models in a writeup? Look for the word comprehensive, especially if it's used multiple times throughout the article.
Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models
#90I've been using ChatGPT fairly regularly for about a year. Mostly as an editor/brainstorming-partner/copy-reviewer. Lots of things have changed in that year, but the things that haven't are: * So, so many em-dashes. All over the place. (I've tried various ways to get it to stop. None of them have worked long term). * Random emojis. * Affirmations at the start of messages. ("That's a great idea!") With a brief pause w…
Don't forget the classic: "It's not just X—it's Y."