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Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by JokerDan » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 7:32 PM UTC

I am surprised Omarchy got such a large audience, DHH had already dropped an opinionated Ubuntu 'distro' - Omakub - but seemingly didn't gain popularity.

Even though I haven't used it, I don't mind Omarchy existing if it works. I had issues with omakub when I had tried it in the distant past.

https://omakub.org/

That said, I think a lot of peoples criticism of DHH and Omarchy is based on their personal opinions of DHH or that they don't like that an opinionated Arch variant is opinionated, which is a bit of a ridiculous criticism too.

Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by timeon » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 7:35 PM UTC

wyclif wrote: post #74

timeon wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think many people have problem with the project because it is from alt-right environment.

If you seriously think DHH and collaborators are "alt-right", you haven't met many alt-right people.

Sure there is spectrum. I witnessed more extreme stuff during early 90s in Eastern Europe but still...

Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by milesrout » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 8:13 PM UTC

zvmaz wrote: post #16

pelagicAustral wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to be the one equating 'brit' to skin color.

How does he know who is "native brit" and who is not? Rhetorical question.

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Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by wyclif » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 12:14 AM UTC

freehorse wrote: post #79

wyclif wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That commentary proves that the guy doesn't get it or is being a willfully obtuse hater. One of the big reasons people have been gravitating toward Omarchy is because they don't want to spend hours ricing or tweaking their desktop, they want to be getting shit done after a sub-15 minute install. And Omarchy does that very well. That's what omakase and "opinionated" mean.

That sounds fine for those first 15 minutes and maybe first weeks though. What if a certain `curl | sh` fails after a month? What if I need some other stuff down the road? If anything the article's criticism makes sense from the perspective of needing to get work done, and omarchy seems to be focused more on the aesthetics. A package manager is exactly what is needed to get shit done instead of tweaking and troublesh…

Omarchy is a very fast moving target at this point. I have every expectation that in the near future, they'll develop a package manager. I agree that Omarchy is not yet a "real distribution", but it's undeniable that it's rapidly heading in that direction.

Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 4:51 AM UTC

mexicocitinluez wrote: post #49

IMTDb wrote: post #17

The author seems very set on following "the proper way of doing things in the linux ecosystem". If I remember correctly, a key principle from Linus himself is: "Talk is cheap. Show me the code". So did the author open any PR to fix any of the issues he surfaced ?

lol hold up. Are you saying you can't criticize something unless you're actively working on it?

This person did write a very,very long article that would have been shorter in the form of PRs as fixes to some of the issues, to be fair

Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 5:06 AM UTC

mtlynch wrote: post #7

These criticisms all feel very nitpicky and subjective. So many of them seem to boil down to, "this is an opinionated configuration, but their opinions differ from my opinions." This part was where I stopped taking the article seriously: > Moreover, taking into account that the system relies heavily on sudo (instead of the more modern doas), and also considering that the default installation configures the maximum nu…

That was my feeling.

I find somewhat ironic that he calls out the security aspect of it without considering the audience.

I feel the tracking for advertising is a lot more a security issue than it is the chances of somebody brute forcing a laptop password

Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by phplovesong » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 5:15 AM UTC

mfro wrote: post #6

The gap this fills is simple: those who just want a flashy arch installation to post on socials. These people have no concerns about quality because they haven’t used Linux extensively and aren’t using their OS for genuine work.

Also the tech-influencers like tj and primeagen hyping this hard. I sometime wonder when out industry went to shit. Its all AI slop and hype influencers these days.

Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by phplovesong » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 5:17 AM UTC

JokerDan wrote: post #81

I am surprised Omarchy got such a large audience, DHH had already dropped an opinionated Ubuntu 'distro' - Omakub - but seemingly didn't gain popularity. Even though I haven't used it, I don't mind Omarchy existing if it works. I had issues with omakub when I had tried it in the distant past. https://omakub.org/ That said, I think a lot of peoples criticism of DHH and Omarchy is based on their personal opinions of DH…

Because its hype driven by content creators.

Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 5:31 AM UTC

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Re: A Word on Omarchy

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Post by wltr » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 5:50 AM UTC

mtlynch wrote: post #7

These criticisms all feel very nitpicky and subjective. So many of them seem to boil down to, "this is an opinionated configuration, but their opinions differ from my opinions." This part was where I stopped taking the article seriously: > Moreover, taking into account that the system relies heavily on sudo (instead of the more modern doas), and also considering that the default installation configures the maximum nu…

I’m all in for opinionated software, but not in the cases it is made by people… (if not vibe-coded, lol) by incompetent people. That’s what the article is about if you were to read it longer than you mentioned. Great that you are the top comment, summarises this community for me.