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Re: Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

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That's true, but its framing sort of rests on an assumption of fungibility that doesn't really hold. There are many important cultural works whose copyright status is currently the main bottleneck to their being made widely available to the public. Part of why this happens is that, in any medium, most works aren't very popular. A few years ago, someone who worked at YouTube told me that more than half of YouTube vide…

I find the no views on half of youtube videos to be difficult to accept unless counting non-public. If we filtered for a 5 seconds + perhaps that would fix that. I would if youtube would prune anything without a view in the future.

Well, of course, you've never seen any of the videos that have zero views, and you're more than a million times less likely to see a video with one view than a video with a million views. Definitely the YouTube recommender will recommend it at least a million times less often, and I suspect much more than that.

This kind of selection bias pops up in a lot of contexts. When you ride the bus, for example, you're disproportionately more likely to be on a bus that's over half full than on a bus that's mostly empty. And most of your friends probably have more friends than you do. (Not just you. I'm not saying you're unfriendly or asocial. It's true for most people.)

The guy I was talking to, on the other hand, could just run a database query over all the videos, and he did.

It's possible that YouTube has pruned those zero-views videos since I talked to him.

Re: Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

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> But that doesn't mean that ... the product of their activity is worth spending extra effort to preserve a century later, any more than the baked trout or the toilet clog would be. Why not? What's a more likely question to an AI that might have been trained on these books: "Tell me some ideas for my kid's birthday party next January" or "Write out a huge book-length story about a magical school for wizards?" I surmi…

For a couple of different reasons. The first is literary merit: reading Harry Potter is a great deal more enjoyable than reading Bechdolt's book. Rowling may not be Homer or Shakespeare, and there are things about her books that could be better, but reading them has been an extremely popular activity since they were first published. I suspect that, if there are people in 200 years, less of them will read Rowling than…

" Harry Potter, like Rambo, The Matrix, and Frankenstein, supplies metaphors and narratives through which nearly everyone today interprets the world around them, even if they haven't read it themselves"

I did read the books, but I don't think I have really encountered the use of "Muggles, horcrux, mudblood" in every day life, nor do I personally feel they shaped my metaphors or narratives on how I see the world. Frankenstein is much more catchy for the metaphor of the man made monster for example. What does Harry Potter stands for?

Re: Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

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I find it improper that we count from 2025 years ago. We should count from the beginning of time.

I've become an unironic proponent of HE, the Human Era. For CE dates, we just add 10000 (I'm writing this from 12025). But for BCE dates, they're subtracted and it makes things so much clearer when it comes to telling how long ago something was. E.g. the sundial was invented around 6000 HE, steel was developed around 9000 HE. Kurtzgesagt has a really great video about the subject: https://youtu.be/czgOWmtGVGs There's…

That just sounds like Anno Mundi with extra steps. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Mundi

1. Pick an epoch date so far in the past that nothing of interest could possibly have taken place before it.

2. ???

3. Profit!

The two problems with this idea are, first, that everyone argues about the exact value of the epoch; and second, that something always ends up having happened before that.

You can also invert the scheme, to get the Before Present system. This has the same two problems (s/before/after/).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present

Re: Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

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the ebook identifier uniquely identifies every ebook. standard ebook ebooks use the url as their unique identifier

Those are poor identifiers. A numeric or short alphanumeric identifier that can be part of the filename is important... I have as many as 5 different editions of the same title so title+author doesn't do the trick. Nor am I putting a url into the filename, couldn't if I wanted to as there are disallowed characters in a url in every filesystem I've ever heard of. How difficult is it to keep a incrementing catalog numb…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Identifier

Re: Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

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Those are poor identifiers. A numeric or short alphanumeric identifier that can be part of the filename is important... I have as many as 5 different editions of the same title so title+author doesn't do the trick. Nor am I putting a url into the filename, couldn't if I wanted to as there are disallowed characters in a url in every filesystem I've ever heard of. How difficult is it to keep a incrementing catalog numb…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Identifier

This isn't a solution either. Not sure why you think it is. Here's how I name files, just as an example:

    Meditationes de Prima Philosophia - GTNB•0023306 (2007) - Descartes, René (aut)

    Meditations on First Philosophy - 9780203417621 (2013) - Descartes, René (aut); Haldane, Elizabeth (trl); Ross, G. R. T. (trl) & Tweyman, Stanley (edt,wfw)
Where and how should I put a URI in there, especially considering that they at minimum need the colon (:), which is a problematic character in filenames on NTFS/HFS/APFS/XFS? They're not exactly disallowed, but they create a resource fork or some shit and so it doesn't behave as you would expect. If Standard Ebooks just started numbering their books, then I'd slap the STBK• in front of the number and use that. They're not in Worldcat, or I could use OCLC numbers (but it shouldn't be other people's job to keep the catalog of their own books).

Re: Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Identifier

This isn't a solution either. Not sure why you think it is. Here's how I name files, just as an example: Meditationes de Prima Philosophia - GTNB•0023306 (2007) - Descartes, René (aut) Meditations on First Philosophy - 9780203417621 (2013) - Descartes, René (aut); Haldane, Elizabeth (trl); Ross, G. R. T. (trl) & Tweyman, Stanley (edt,wfw) Where and how should I put a URI in there, especially considering that they a…

choose your favorite hash

    hash()

Re: Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

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This isn't a solution either. Not sure why you think it is. Here's how I name files, just as an example: Meditationes de Prima Philosophia - GTNB•0023306 (2007) - Descartes, René (aut) Meditations on First Philosophy - 9780203417621 (2013) - Descartes, René (aut); Haldane, Elizabeth (trl); Ross, G. R. T. (trl) & Tweyman, Stanley (edt,wfw) Where and how should I put a URI in there, especially considering that they a…

choose your favorite hash hash( )

Hashes are too long, aren't human-recognizable as to meaning, etc. I don't want half-assed workarounds. They need to uniquely number their books.

Re: Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

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If you are part of PG or closely related to Greg Newby I strongly encourage you to email info@rsync.net at your earliest convenience. I will watch that inbox personally - please do be in touch as soon as possible. Please also accept my condolences and best wishes - I've known Greg since the earliest HOPE conventions.

Thank you, rsync, from a community member.

Re: Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

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post #52

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For a couple of different reasons. The first is literary merit: reading Harry Potter is a great deal more enjoyable than reading Bechdolt's book. Rowling may not be Homer or Shakespeare, and there are things about her books that could be better, but reading them has been an extremely popular activity since they were first published. I suspect that, if there are people in 200 years, less of them will read Rowling than…

" Harry Potter, like Rambo, The Matrix, and Frankenstein, supplies metaphors and narratives through which nearly everyone today interprets the world around them, even if they haven't read it themselves" I did read the books, but I don't think I have really encountered the use of "Muggles, horcrux, mudblood" in every day life, nor do I personally feel they shaped my metaphors or narratives on how I see the world. Fran…

i don’t have a strong view either way, but as a data point: I've heard the word “muggle” used in casual conversation and i don’t run in circles where harry potter is considered required reading.
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