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Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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I (like many) started playing chess online during COVID and despite being too damn old, I wanted to see how high I could climb in ratings. Soon I found Danya, then Gotham, then IMRosen. All who loved this damn game so much. Even found I liked Hikaru though as an oldster, so many of his memes went over my head. I soon realized that no matter how hard I tried, I would never be ranked, and I was fine with that because l…

You might not ever get titled, but a 1400 online is very much good enough to join your national chess federation and be middle of the pack competitive in local rated chess tournaments and the like.

I feel weird doing a 'well actually' in a post about something so serious and sad, but it might be worth pointing this out to prevent someone from getting the wrong idea about their chess strength: the meaning of '1400 online' varies greatly depending on the site and the time control. According to https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/, Chesscom blitz 500 = Lichess classical 1400, and chesscom blitz 1400 = lichess rapid 1880. (I don't know how accurate that site is, but the general point is definitely true; AFAIK Lichess and Chesscom use different rating systems with different means, and within each site the strength of the player pool varies across the time controls.)

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if not, we're all better off if we behave with respect and humanity.

This just feels like gatekeeping discussion at this point.

The concern is more about speculation specifically. Internet armchair-investigations regularly get out of control and fills discussion with what reliably later turns out to be misinformation, in addition to being disrespectful at sensitive time.

Low quality blogs and "news" reporters also directly pull from online discussions, and before you know it, hypothetical drug use is a major discussion point, which is unfortunate.

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Kramnik should be held accountable for making Danya's life hell the past year. Not blaming him for what has happened but this bullying has to stop. It was clear to me and many others that he started attacking Danya because he was a "Russian boy" who did not defend him when Hikaru mocked Kramnik. I'm really upset now so maybe not making much sense.

If you're not blaming him, then you shouldn't hold him accountable.

Kramnik has accused of online cheating virtually every grandmaster bar some of the top 10 and none in the community gives Kramnik much weight on this topic.

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Kramnik should be held accountable for making Danya's life hell the past year. Not blaming him for what has happened but this bullying has to stop. It was clear to me and many others that he started attacking Danya because he was a "Russian boy" who did not defend him when Hikaru mocked Kramnik. I'm really upset now so maybe not making much sense.

I'm sure he said bad things about Danya, and even now he's protecting himself when he should be just sorry for what terrible thing has happened, but generally Danya was more liked than Kramnik, so he can't be responsible / accountable for something he doesn't have power over (Danya's life).

If you are famous, you will have haters, it's part of the deal.

I agree with the crowd who say that mental health issues should be taken seriously instead of kept under the rug.

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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holy shit. there’s an interesting (but not necessarily causual in either direction) link between chess and depression https://www.chess.com/blog/AstroTheoretical_Physics/chess-pl... either how, RIP

Isn't there a link between high intelligence and depression as well?

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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post #84

holy shit. there’s an interesting (but not necessarily causual in either direction) link between chess and depression https://www.chess.com/blog/AstroTheoretical_Physics/chess-pl... either how, RIP

Also: Daniel was being accused of cheating by Kramnik and visibly affected by it. I think there's a link between bullying and suicide isn't there?

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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holy shit. there’s an interesting (but not necessarily causual in either direction) link between chess and depression https://www.chess.com/blog/AstroTheoretical_Physics/chess-pl... either how, RIP

Isn't there a link between high intelligence and depression as well?

is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't there a link between high intelligence and depression as well?

is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?

Not proof (if there is any such thing for intelligence) but a very strong indicator, yes.
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