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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#81

Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...

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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#82
post #40

Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...

Don't forget the environmental impact of a smaller box. The box will probably be less than half as thick, doubling shipping efficiency. These are air freight, so the CO2 impact is not negligible. I'll take the discount and use one of my 12 existing USB-C chargers.

>Don't forget the environmental impact of a smaller box

Compared to the marginal environmental impact to source materials, build hardware and parts, assemble, ship, stock, and transport to customer each unit, the box could be 10x larger and it wouldn't make a dent.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#83

Lowest tier comes with 16 gb of memory, same memory size with lowest M. air, why Apple?

For perspective I have a 12 year old MacBook with 8 gigs of ram and it’s still perfectly usable for all the things I do on it. If you need more RAM because you are video encoding, compiling, or gaming (why!?) then you aren’t a basic consumer. I’m not trying into be a fanboy and maybe it’s a little bit “cope”, but apple has always put as much RAM as is necessary for the computer to work—and not a lot more—in their bas…

The $1599 M5 Macbook Pro: Good enough for a guy who thinks a 12-year-old MacBook with 8 gigs of ram is "still perfectly usable"

:)

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#84
post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

>I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up.

Sounds more like a you problem, probably due to unfamiliarity. There are endless options for local dev on a Mac, and a huge share of devs using one.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Base M1 had 8GB RAM base and 16 max. Where are you getting “same base ram”?

%100 ram growth in 5 years still very slow and cheap.

Indeed. RAM is the tool of planned obselecence (and profiteering for that matter).

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#86
post #59

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> The M5 Pro refresh will come later. Did they announce this or are you speaking for Apple?

They release the Pro and Max parts after the base part. This has been their release strategy for past generations.

Does anyone have a guess on when they could be releasing a potential M4 Ultra Mac Studio?

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

%100 ram growth in 5 years still very slow and cheap.

I think 8GB was also what we had in ... 2012? Or am I wrong. Memory has been going so slow.

First Retina MacBook Pros 13" were with 8 GB base memory. That was either 2013 or even 2012, so, yeah.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#88
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the quirks with local dev that make it not fun?

There are surprisingly a lot of permission headaches and rug pulls in the last few big OS updates that have been really annoying.

I use macOS, with all kinds of languages locally, plus vms, kubernetes, LLMs, etc and seen no such issues.

What "permission headaches"?

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#89

Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...

Bizarrely you can only select a new adapter during the configuration if you select 24GB RAM or higher

Prices are about 65 EUR for a 70W (tested DE + CH)

The EU law states they must provide an SKU without an adapter - i.e. they're still allowed to offer one with a power adapter.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#90
post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

For me a VM set up via UTM works quite well on my Mac. Just make sure you do not virtualize x86, that kills both performance and battery life. This way I get the nice battery life and performance in a small packge but am not limited by MacOs for my development.
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