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KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by Spunkie »

bogwog wrote: post #68
dapperdrake wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GNOME essentially gutted itself when it switched away from GNOME 2. Somehow they still stuck around as a broken default. Go figure. IIRC, then a lot of documentation still mentions GNOME first and then KDE second. Furthermore, Ubuntu without the prefix is GNOME. Kubuntu is KDE. And all the others like Lubuntu, etc. all seem "special" to casual users. Think of what the average university student installs in a VM, when…

> And GNOME lives on as a sorry excuse for a bad copy of MacOS desktop looks without the feel. This is an inaccurate description. GNOME is a copy of (the worst parts of) Windows 8 and Mac OS, not just Mac OS. But seriously, GNOME isn't that bad, and there are people who genuinely enjoy it over KDE. Choice is what makes the Linux ecosystem great. However, I do agree that KDE is probably a saner default than GNOME, if…

If I look back at it, GNOME is likely responsible for me abandoning all of my attempts to transition to linux when I was younger. I had no idea KDE or alt desktop environments even existed back then and even now distros don't make it easy to discover/experiment with them. It's to the point I have some internal bias against trusting any distro that uses GNOME as the default.

I hope in the future KDE overtakes GNOME to become the "standard linux" experience.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by MegaDeKay »

wiz21c wrote: post #21

I use KDE on my home PC since about a 15 years, exclusively. I like it a lot but it still has some rough edges here and there. For example, the network config interface is a bit messy. Sure you can configure many things with it, but it's hard to understand). Dolphin is the best file manager I have ever used, nothing come close nowadays (I have tested windows and macs). The desktop configuration is quite nice and the…

Dolphin is a real gem. Split windows, tabs, open terminal in current location, etc. Going back to Windows Explorer is painful once you've gotten used to Dolphin.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

janwl wrote: post #71
cgh wrote: post #59

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The point is that KDE from 2015 will still run on today’s hardware.

So will Windows 10, and it will receive as much support as a KDE version from 2015.

It isn't competing with an old KDE, it's competing with the current version of KDE that still works on that hardware.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by fooker »

wkat4242 wrote: post #65
dapperdrake wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GNOME essentially gutted itself when it switched away from GNOME 2. Somehow they still stuck around as a broken default. Go figure. IIRC, then a lot of documentation still mentions GNOME first and then KDE second. Furthermore, Ubuntu without the prefix is GNOME. Kubuntu is KDE. And all the others like Lubuntu, etc. all seem "special" to casual users. Think of what the average university student installs in a VM, when…

Kubuntu isn't really feature complete compared to Ubuntu, for example the installer doesn't allow to create a zfs on root install.

zfs on Linux has not been production ready for decades. People have lost data from it. There's no real reason to allow the default installer to do this.

If you understand the risks, you can do it yourself.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by thefifthsetpin »

dapperdrake wrote: post #36
frameset wrote: post #25

I'm absolutely loving KDE since I returned to desktop Linux after a long absence. What really shocks me is how few of the big distros make KDE a default or "first class" DE choice. If I was a novice user coming from Windows, I'd much prefer KDE, which if you stick to the GUI is very navigable and similar in some ways.

GNOME essentially gutted itself when it switched away from GNOME 2. Somehow they still stuck around as a broken default. Go figure. IIRC, then a lot of documentation still mentions GNOME first and then KDE second. Furthermore, Ubuntu without the prefix is GNOME. Kubuntu is KDE. And all the others like Lubuntu, etc. all seem "special" to casual users. Think of what the average university student installs in a VM, when…

Are there any active gnome 2 forks? That's when I left gnome, too, and I haven't found anything I like as well.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by OsrsNeedsf2P »

sgc wrote: post #56
ak_111 wrote: post #6

I am used to having "Emacs key-bindings" on both gnome and Mac (so that for example ctrl-a will always go to the beginning of a textbox no matter the application, such as chrome). For some strange reason this seems to be very hard thing to set up on KDE or am I missing something?

This seemed like something relatively easy for chatgpt to handle. The response is a bit complicated compared to what it sounds like you are looking for (it's not from the kde settings gui), but still a two minute "fix".

Did the response ChatGPT give you actually work, or did it confidently hallucinate?

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

akimbostrawman wrote: post #40

Amazing project my only gripes about KDE is that while the customization is great it can feel overwhelming and opaque. For example multiple different ways to get transparency (Kvantum & qt6ct) but nothing built in or large amount of different but seemingly connected config files with confusing syntax in .config I hope the work on union will help fix some of that

Yes, if you choose to go off the happy path into the weeds, then you will be off the happy path in the weeds. The only desktop environments where that isn't true are the ones that forbid customization.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by guerrilla »

dandellion wrote: post #76
guerrilla wrote: post #63

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As a long-time GNOME user, I support this sentiment entirely. What a disaster. It keeps getting worse too. Now you can barely even tell foreground from background windows thanks to this Adwaita bullshit. First they removed all the features, now they're removing all of the visual information.

Same, I've using GNOME for a long time and haven't switched yet out of laziness and being busy with other things, but the next time I have to upgrade my laptop I'm giving KDE a spin, I'm tired of GNOME replacing useful features with... nothing. They deprecate something and replace it with an app that looks sleek because it has no buttons, and it has no buttons because it has none of the features that I use. And this…

It's not just worse. It's MUCH worse. I'm in the same boat. I want to change but I don't know what to and haven't had the energy to put into that yet. This desktop is dead though and they're just beating it's dead corpse at this point. I've tried KDE a few times and it was just too disorganized for me, so I might just do something simpler like awesome or one of those tiling things and add in what I want. I used to just use openbox. There must be something equally simple for Wayland.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by OsrsNeedsf2P »

janwl wrote: post #58

>Case in point: Microsoft is stopping free support for Windows 10 on hundreds of millions of computers this very week. Many of these old yet perfectly usable devices will not be able to upgrade because of spurious hardware requirements. Microsoft’s solution? “Throw away your computer and pollute the planet because we want to make even more money.” Windows 10 was released in 2015. Does KDE still support whatever versi…

KDE 5 was released in 2015 and still supported on Arch Linux. Even KDE 3, released in, 2002 is still supported and installable: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/
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