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After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Re: After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Post by alganet »

Legend2440 wrote: post #77
Starlevel004 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The self checkout machines at the supermarket can talk and make decisions. I don't see them revolutionising the world.

1. That’s not remotely the same, and you know it. 2. The category of computerized machines (of which self checkouts are one example) has absolutely revolutionized the world. Computerization is the defining technology of the last twenty years.

What is that category and what other machines are in it?

Re: After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Post by novaRom »

dbg31415 wrote: post #40

I hope we'll get back to building things that actually matter -- solutions that help real people; products that are enjoyable to use, and are satisfying to build. As the noise fades, and with luck, the obsession with slapping "AI" on everything will fade with it. Too many hype-driven CEOs are chasing anything but substance. Some AI tools may survive because they're genuinely useful, but I worry that most won't be cos…

Democracy, personal freedoms, and rule of law are things that matter, but I am afraid we cannot get back to them quickly without significant efforts. We need first to get back to sanity. In authoritarian society AI is a tool of control, do we want it to be like that?

Re: After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Post by givemeethekeys »

Starlevel004 wrote: post #15
mikert89 wrote: post #4

I cant believe people still arent grasping the profound implications of computers that can talk and make decisions.

The self checkout machines at the supermarket can talk and make decisions. I don't see them revolutionising the world.

> I don't see them revolutionising the world.

They revolutionized supermarkets.

Re: After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Post by stanac »

bitmasher9 wrote: post #56

> GPUs that have a 1-3 year lifespan In 10 years GPUs will have a lifespan for 5-7 years. The rate of improvement on this front has been slowing down faster then CPU.

There was a video on YT (gamers nexus I think) and an excel sheet comparing jumps in performance gains between each new nvidia generation. They are becoming smaller and smaller, probably now driven by AI boom where most of the silicon is used for data centers. Regardless of that, I have a feeling we are approaching the ceiling of chip performance. Just comparing PS3 and PS4 and then PS4 with PS5, performance jump is smaller and size of the hardware has become enormous and GPUs are more and more power hungry. If generational jumps were good enough we wouldn't need more power and cooling and big boxes for desktop PCs that can hold long graphic cards.

Re: After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Post by nemomarx »

bitmasher9 wrote: post #56

> GPUs that have a 1-3 year lifespan In 10 years GPUs will have a lifespan for 5-7 years. The rate of improvement on this front has been slowing down faster then CPU.

After heavy use, though? I don't think they mean aging out of being cutting edge but actually starting to fail sooner after being used in DCs.

Re: After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Post by stanac »

lifestyleguru wrote: post #67
mikert89 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

who cares about a bubble? we are on the cusp of intelligent machines. The implications will last for hundreds of years, maybe impact the trajectory of humanity

Matrix is calling you on the rotary dial phone.

Is that why we no longer have telephone boots? They want to prevent Neo from jumping in and out of Matrix?

Re: After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

nemomarx wrote: post #86
bitmasher9 wrote: post #56

> GPUs that have a 1-3 year lifespan In 10 years GPUs will have a lifespan for 5-7 years. The rate of improvement on this front has been slowing down faster then CPU.

After heavy use, though? I don't think they mean aging out of being cutting edge but actually starting to fail sooner after being used in DCs.

They're mostly solid state parts. The parts that do wear out like fans are easily replaced by hobbyists.

Re: After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Post by lgas »

mikert89 wrote: post #7
b_e_n_t_o_n wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are they?

how could i even begin to list them, is the point of my original comment

Just pick one then, since so far you've conveyed nothing at all about them, so we're all left to wonder what you might be thinking of.

Re: After the AI boom: what might we be left with?

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Post by abathologist »

forgotusername6 wrote: post #43
Gattopardo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My dude, it's literally just fancy autocomplete and isn't intelligent at all.

What makes you so sure that you aren't just fancy autocomplete?

I am so sure because of the self-evidence of my experience, the results of 2 millennia of analysis into the nature of cognition and experience, and consideration of the material composition of our organism (we obviously have lots of critical analog components, which are not selecting tokens, but instead connecting with flows from other continua).

Prediction is obviously involved in certain forms of cognition, but it obviously isn't all there is to the kinds of beings we are.

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