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Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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longcovidthrowa wrote: post #63
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #10

The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

I won't make a claim to the accuracy of the numbers, but I can offer an example of how long COVID can be undercounted. My daughter was a competitive long distance runner. Months after recovering from the acute symptoms of COVID, her performance numbers were still about 10% down and no amount of training would allow her to reach her previous level of performance. After many visits to doctors and specialists, she was e…

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Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by shlant »

itsme0000 wrote: post #61
Tarsul wrote: post #6

This is (probably) not a Long Covid story but I found that bloodletting (for which I even received money!) gave me back the energy that I was missing for the last few years (e.g. it was impossible to build stamina). I also read about a study about the positive effects of bloodletting[1] that somehow is not all the rage in mainstream news, which I find perplexing. If it might be so easy to improve your health (for som…

Yeah sounds like you get your medical advice from the Kremlin. There no conspiracy to hide the medical benefits of leaching, can you imagine if that actually worked? Every doctor in the world would have to be a complete moron not to notice.

I don't know why they decided to use the term "blood letting" but I'm pretty sure some of the benefits being talked about in the response also come from donating blood (which is essentially the same thing)? You calling it "leaching" doesn't seem good faith

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by sampo »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #10

The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

> this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it.

Maybe you are not the type of person that people feel comfortable to share their health problems information with.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by colechristensen »

withinboredom wrote: post #55
Tarsul wrote: post #6

This is (probably) not a Long Covid story but I found that bloodletting (for which I even received money!) gave me back the energy that I was missing for the last few years (e.g. it was impossible to build stamina). I also read about a study about the positive effects of bloodletting[1] that somehow is not all the rage in mainstream news, which I find perplexing. If it might be so easy to improve your health (for som…

I assume we are built to lose some blood. I imagine throughout most of our species development, injuries were somewhat common on a regular basis. Just looking at the scars on my own body, from a quite active childhood and young adult period outdoors, I am extrapolating. n = 1

Before antibiotics, nontrivial wounds were often death sentences because of infection.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by marliechiller »

tiahura wrote: post #34
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #10

The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

I'm an ambulance chaser. I look at medical records all day. I've never seen anyone complaining of long covid.

Im not sure if this is a comment generated by a bot, a troll or something else to try and generate disinformation or something. I've seen a few comments on this thread which seem out of line from the usual sort of good natured discourse seen on HN. Not sure if its this particular topic or a sign of the times.

Anyway, having had long covid myself for over 15 months, there are many, many people suffering with it, we are just discovering the tip of the iceberg

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by cjbgkagh »

clanky wrote: post #48
notmyjob wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the lipid nanoparticle based Covid prevention shots caused myocarditis in some younger males, so earlier incidence of cardiovascular complications vs. the present (when most people especially younger healthy males are choosing not to take updated boosters) would correlate with that as well.

The one Thai prospective study that I saw on this subject (the only one I ever found which measured biomarkers of heart damage like troponin before and after injection, which is utterly shameful), estimated a rate of heart damage in adolescent males in the range of 1-3%. So even that would be nowhere near enough to reach the 1/5 number.

I got pericarditis bad enough that I thought it was going to kill me but not bad enough to show up in any test. Thankfully the cardiologist accepted my description of what I felt and prescribed me colchicine which worked. I guess it would be called subclinical pericarditis and it would be good to have some stats on how often that happens.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by traceroute66 »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #10

The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

> What's going on here?

Perhaps its a reflection of how hard it is to get the medical community to take Long COVID seriously ?

I would say there is more chance of them (sadly) telling you to go home, take a couple of paracetamol and get some rest. Or if you're lucky, they might mis-diagnose you with something else....

(No first-hand experience here, just going by one or two anecdotal stories I've heard on the grapevine)

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by base698 »

Wintamute wrote: post #5

Can they disambiguate between spike protein microclots produced by natural infection vs. those generated by the vaccines.

https://news.yale.edu/2025/02/19/immune-markers-post-vaccina...

They are looking into that.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by jancsika »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #60
cheschire wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of symptoms of long covid mirror the symptoms of unhealthy living, which may make it so people either dismiss their own symptoms and don't seek diagnosis, or their complaints are dismissed by others for needing to simply improve externalities.

Couldn’t it be the other way round, that changes in health caused by other external factors erroneously get blamed on COVID? For instance, a disproportionate amount of long COVID cases are reported by women between the ages of 40 and 60, the exact age range when most women experience menopause [0]. Menopause can cause brain fog, fatigue, and other symptoms that mirror those of long COVID. Since pretty much everyone h…

> Couldn’t it be the other way round, that changes in health caused by other external factors erroneously get blamed on COVID?

It is possible, but not to the degree that all long Covid cases are being confused with external factors.

> Menopause can cause brain fog

Additionally, long Covid can cause brain fog. This was shown in brain scans from a popular HN post about a research paper just yesterday:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45539845

Those patients were 20-59 and had "no previous history of neuropsychiatric disorders."

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