Google blocks Android hack that let Pixel users enable VoLTE anywhere

Post by amluto » Sun, Oct 12, 2025, 2:30 PM UTC

walterbell wrote: post #24

Namidairo wrote: post #6

> that let Pixel users enable VoLTE anywhere It did a great deal more than that. It also allowed the toggling of VoNR, which apparently affected the fallback behavior of some people's services. (Ie. It would fall back to LTE and not roam back to 5G data unless nudged manually) However for me, it would enable backup calls over a secondary sim card's data, which would allow text and calls overseas without the usual ext…

> that toggle is enabled for my carrier... but only on iOS WiFi calling with SIM1 number via SIM2 data has always worked on iOS, so I was surprised when it didn't work on Pixel.

Post by ThePowerOfFuet » Sun, Oct 12, 2025, 4:57 PM UTC

Post by like_any_other » Sun, Oct 12, 2025, 5:23 PM UTC

tsimionescu wrote: post #42

like_any_other wrote: post #10

> While not documented in the official changelog, Google appears to have quietly patched this particular exploit. So Google and phone carriers conspired to secretly sabotage user devices. Isn't that patch the actual "hack", given that it is undisclosed and against the device owner's wishes? Why are we going along with this deranged pretense that even if you buy something, it still belongs to the manufacturer?

Phones, just like cars, are only allowed to be manufactured and sold to the extent that the manufacturer takes reasonable efforts to prevent end-user misuse of the devices they are selling. This is because phones, just like cars, use and can greatly affect shared public infrastructure - the radio spectrum for phones, public roads for cars. As such, it is natural that there are manufacturer enforced restrictions on en…

Post by raw_anon_1111 » Sun, Oct 12, 2025, 5:46 PM UTC

like_any_other wrote: post #85

tsimionescu wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phones, just like cars, are only allowed to be manufactured and sold to the extent that the manufacturer takes reasonable efforts to prevent end-user misuse of the devices they are selling. This is because phones, just like cars, use and can greatly affect shared public infrastructure - the radio spectrum for phones, public roads for cars. As such, it is natural that there are manufacturer enforced restrictions on en…

I wouldn't mind your servile attitude so much if it wasn't dragging the rest of us down with you. A key part of "may your chains set lightly upon you" was "go home from us".

Post by toast0 » Sun, Oct 12, 2025, 7:16 PM UTC

martinald wrote: post #78

toast0 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why is having so many bands a bad thing? Demand for data is so much higher now you need (ideally) hundreds of MHz of spectrum in dense areas. You need some way to partition that up as you can't just have one huge static block of spectrum per auction. Because different countries use different sets of bands. That was true for GSM too, but quad band phones were reasonably available. Many phones were at least tri band,…

With a "quad band" LTE phone of bands 2, 7, 20 and say 12 you would get pretty much worldwide coverage. It'd just be slower because you can't access other ones. Not sure what the issue is?