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I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by reillychase »

Jhsto wrote: post #75

Have you cross-referenced with the other hand trackers whether the numbers add up? Alternately, could someone explain why wouldn't a LLM hallucinate with numbers in an application like this?

Yeah I used PokerTracker 4 to cross reference and kept working with Cursor until it got very close like within 1% of accuracy but there are still some edge cases I might not have found yet. In the beginning it was hallucinating a bit by “estimating” what the percentages “should be” etc but I kept working it until it was doing things right.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by vunderba »

reillychase wrote: post #39
GenerWork wrote: post #36

If you're looking for a tool that may be a bit better than Cursor for UX, you could potentially look into Lovable. If you know what you want and the proper design terminology, you can potentially make some slick looking UIs.

Thanks! Can I use Lovable to design and then bring that back and have Cursor implement it?

You can have Lovable do the design and then sync it to a GitHub repo. Then you can pull it down locally and further refine with Cursor.

Just be aware that under the hood Lovable is strictly react (or at least it was the last time I checked it) so that might be a important variable to consider since I saw that you were using Laravel.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by nonethewiser »

monero-xmr wrote: post #80
jonahx wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Collusion in live poker, especially at low to mid-stakes, is almost non-existent.

I see it all the time at low stakes cash games. This is how people earn a living

where? vegas?

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by Cool_Caribou »

vmg12 wrote: post #76
maest wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't mean bots aren't widespread. It just means you're better than the breakeven player.

I'm a software engineer with 10+ years of experience. I'm also a poker player that has a very deep understanding of the game. Writing a poker bot that can beat the game is absolutely not trivial. There are "solvers" that use counterfactual regret minimization to solve a constrained version of the game for specific scenarios. These are useful for understanding the principles of the game but they are not the cheat shee…

I'm an ex online poker pro. You probably don't have the deep understanding of the game you think you have. Bots were already destroying the field up to mid-stakes 10 years ago.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by brightball »

iEchoic wrote: post #26
mattmaroon wrote: post #19

I have to imagine bots have made online poker unwinnable by now, right?

You can still "win" by taking money from the other human players and minimizing EV loss against bots. The major poker sites claim that they have really good (and very top secret) bot detection. I'm skeptical.

Why wouldn’t you put the bots together at the same table if you could detect them?

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by monero-xmr »

nonethewiser wrote: post #83
monero-xmr wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see it all the time at low stakes cash games. This is how people earn a living

where? vegas?

I'd rather not give more hints to my location but an area with casinos

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by brightball »

iEchoic wrote: post #25
niwtsol wrote: post #12

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I read doyle's Super System back in the day and used that as the basis for my poker strategy from high school to mid-twenties. In talking to some friends who play competitively, they say SS is just super out dated and you would get eaten alive at any cash game. I'm curious what, in your opinion, is the "standard" playing strategy that is most effective in today's poker rooms? I'm curious if that answer is different o…

The "standard" strategy is to play GTO (game theory optimal). There are solvers out there (like GTO Wizard) that show you the "optimal" play for every situation, which is used as a baseline, and then players deviate to exploit specific player tendencies. GTO trees are far too complex to fully memorize, so nobody can play perfect GTO. But you can do a lot of solver work to get reasonably close.

I won a tournament on a cruise against a guy who I think was doing this. He was one of the people at the table who had a consistent tell and that helped me beat him heads up.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by sejje »

vmg12 wrote: post #62
monero-xmr wrote: post #59

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Cash games in person are pretty bad too. Casinos need to make money and they only get it off rake, so they have lately turned a blind eye to collusion. The only safe poker (except among friends) is tournaments, in person, so they randomize the tables properly.

Collusion in live poker games in casinos is not a widespread problem. There is a problem with poker where people always think they are being cheated every time they lose. If you are playing in a casino in person it is very unlikely you are being cheated. If you are playing in a regulated website online that verifies the identities of the customers it is also unlikely you are being cheated. The vast majority of people…

Bingo.

Played thousands of hours in casinos. Saw some asshole show down cards to someone still in the hand, stuff like that, but never anything I thought was collusion.

Plenty of other angles, though.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by sejje »

monero-xmr wrote: post #80
jonahx wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Collusion in live poker, especially at low to mid-stakes, is almost non-existent.

I see it all the time at low stakes cash games. This is how people earn a living

In low stakes cash games you don't have to collude to earn a living. The level of play is atrocious.

I've rarely met players whom I think could even act properly on the knowledge.

I've also never been in a room that wouldn't take it very, very seriously.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by sejje »

Waterluvian wrote: post #53
recursive wrote: post #52

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I don't know what a reg is but I would assume the first thing you do after you get your bot working is to add some imperfect play so that you don't get banned by the most trivial heuristics.

Yeah. Poker isn’t actually hard to play perfectly if you’re writing a bot. The hard part is making it look authentic and not emit any patterns or other signals that could be detected in the data.

It's exceedingly hard to play perfectly. Nobody knows how except in limited toy games, like heads up at 7BBs or less. And perfect play varies drastically from opponent to opponent, this isn't blackjack.
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