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Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by mercenario »

antonok wrote: post #37
pankalog wrote: post #12

If I had no problem with devoting the time and money, contributing to the kernel (especially in a topic as obscure as making the extra buttons work on a 20-year-old laptop) is at the top of my bucket list, and I am definitely going to be doing it in the near future when my calendar clears up a bit. Exquisite write-up and OP's simple writing has a motivating ring to it, and I'm now on the local used marketplace lookin…

If you want to find devices that still need hardware support under Linux, I highly recommend trying to get a mobile Linux distribution to work on an old smartphone or tablet. postmarketOS in particular has a really good devices page [1] showing missing feature support at a glance, as well as guides for porting to new devices [2] and porting features from an outdated vendor-provided Linux fork to the upstream kernel […

I'm actually trying this right now, but it is becoming much harder than I expected. The fact that I keep needing to recompile kernel and rebooting device doesn't help. I'm trying to make the display and touchscreen work consistently on a qualcomm soc.

And the pmos wiki is severely lacking IMHO.

Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by zenolijo »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #42
antonok wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to find devices that still need hardware support under Linux, I highly recommend trying to get a mobile Linux distribution to work on an old smartphone or tablet. postmarketOS in particular has a really good devices page [1] showing missing feature support at a glance, as well as guides for porting to new devices [2] and porting features from an outdated vendor-provided Linux fork to the upstream kernel […

I genuinely want to work on postmarketOS but I don't have the technical know-how right now but one day. I would prefer a sort of dual-boot or just a simple ability to run linux in "android phones" Like, if we were to build a linux phone somehow hacking it through a raspberry pi or the alikes, they would be so much more costly and subpar. Android phones have whole globalization working on it and the only reason why th…

It's possible to dual-boot. My favorite method is to have a device with a SD-card slot and have android on the eMMC but PostmarketOS on the SD-card.

Currently only do that on one of my older devices, would love to do it on my main device but when I bought it I was in a hurry to get it going and did not have time to unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader now means having to factory default the device but I simply have too much important stuff set up that it's not worth it. Apparently there's also no great way to backup all partitions of the Android device which I find to be quite strange.

Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by leakycap »

marssaxman wrote: post #48
leakycap wrote: post #21

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> Maybe you won't find an issue as simple as fixing a button, though. Every laptop I've used with linux has had a few non-functioning buttons and keys. I think you underestimate the widespread issue.

I've never had that problem with a Thinkpad.

Lucky you! There are thousands of ThinkPad models and they're not magically exempt from this issue:

(Not a new issue... here's the problem on an R60) https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/475968/thinkpad-vol...

E14 Gen4 https://forum.manjaro.org/t/thinkpad-e14-gen4-special-keys-m...

E14 Gen2 issues https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/609942/thinkpad-spe...

T510 issues https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=268269

Fn Volume Control Keys Not Working https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=412947

It just takes a cursory glance of search results to see that your ThinkPad experience is not everyone's.

Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by philipwhiuk »

rvz wrote: post #62
akdor1154 wrote: post #30

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Be careful.. any measure becomes a target, and in doing so voids its usefulness. Getting a kernel patch in is probably already somewhat afflicted by this, but imagine the lkml if every Bay Area wannabe company started soft-requiring this as a screen!

> Be careful.. any measure becomes a target, and in doing so voids its usefulness. Except, this tests for a wide range of tasks related to a typical SWE role: programming proficiency, reasoning through rigorous code-review, clean code, open-source and testing. Given that Leetcode and Hackerrank tests can be cheated / beaten with LLMs, it not only has been gamed to death, but it tests for nothing that is related to th…

> Then this saves time and the proof is on the interviewee to show high quality functional open source changes to high profile projects like the Linux kernel for example and the bar is set high on purpose.

At the cost of the maintainer's time being your first round interview.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24643894

Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by fnicfnac »

da_chicken wrote: post #75
leakycap wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you mistakenly respond to the wrong thread?

I think they're trying to say avoiding a Windows computer is about as difficult as avoiding an automobile, and potentially just as fatal. I think if they're honestly not being hyperbolic, they should find a less technical career or hobby. If you're afraid of flying, don't join the Air Force.

I'm not sure if there is a word for people who choose high risk activities because they have less fear, because I'm not a coroner.. Perhaps because I'm not sure I have a healthy enough fear of death.

If you examine the stats with the assumption that you could be one who dies early and probably won't take up opioids then there is some logical reasoning to do about your relationship with cars and death. "Mistaking" that for fear is a defense mechanism.

The situation of the worse is better crowd and computer security increasingly looks like one of these things that I don't want to apply such a defense mechanism to.

Linux has not really gotten us closer to eliminating Windows yet it has eliminated a lot of the other approaches to eliminating Windows. Maybe it is only on par with the escooters that can now run me down on the sidewalk but don't seem to have reduced my risk from cars.

Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by fragmede »

MomsAVoxell wrote: post #63

My favourite contribution to the Linux kernel, which I witnessed myself, was a 1-character fix to a macro that my boss found, related to reading ADC, and which we spent two weeks checking and double-checking and re-double-checking to be sure that it was actually a bug. It was, he submitted it, and that one character fix got him into the contributors file .. we were all highly amused, because that particular boss didn…

you can't say that and then keep the story to yourself!

Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by leakycap »

fnicfnac wrote: post #85
da_chicken wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they're trying to say avoiding a Windows computer is about as difficult as avoiding an automobile, and potentially just as fatal. I think if they're honestly not being hyperbolic, they should find a less technical career or hobby. If you're afraid of flying, don't join the Air Force.

I'm not sure if there is a word for people who choose high risk activities because they have less fear, because I'm not a coroner.. Perhaps because I'm not sure I have a healthy enough fear of death. If you examine the stats with the assumption that you could be one who dies early and probably won't take up opioids then there is some logical reasoning to do about your relationship with cars and death. "Mistaking" tha…

> I'm not sure I have a healthy enough fear of death.

You seem to have a very healthy fear of other things, like drivers or scooters running you over, and media buttons on computers launching life-altering software. I'm betting your fear of death might not be healthy, but possibly unhealthy in the sense you're spending your life worrying about things that... well, likely aren't gonna happen to you.

Left right left and all that.

Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by fnicfnac »

leakycap wrote: post #87
fnicfnac wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if there is a word for people who choose high risk activities because they have less fear, because I'm not a coroner.. Perhaps because I'm not sure I have a healthy enough fear of death. If you examine the stats with the assumption that you could be one who dies early and probably won't take up opioids then there is some logical reasoning to do about your relationship with cars and death. "Mistaking" tha…

> I'm not sure I have a healthy enough fear of death. You seem to have a very healthy fear of other things, like drivers or scooters running you over, and media buttons on computers launching life-altering software. I'm betting your fear of death might not be healthy, but possibly unhealthy in the sense you're spending your life worrying about things that... well, likely aren't gonna happen to you. Left right left an…

No external compass, something the group views as (or probably unavoidably knows to be) dangerous. Overcoming the fear of it and then belittling those who haven't completed the same process. Psychologists call that the normalization of deviance. A commercial airline pilot has the external compass in your questionable aviation example.

You don't want a group with initial success with the left, right left and so much enjoyment from the sense of fulfillment in social deviance process that they think they can take over everything.

Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by MomsAVoxell »

fragmede wrote: post #86
MomsAVoxell wrote: post #63

My favourite contribution to the Linux kernel, which I witnessed myself, was a 1-character fix to a macro that my boss found, related to reading ADC, and which we spent two weeks checking and double-checking and re-double-checking to be sure that it was actually a bug. It was, he submitted it, and that one character fix got him into the contributors file .. we were all highly amused, because that particular boss didn…

you can't say that and then keep the story to yourself!

Lets just say that it involved a lot of fluidic particulate quantification.

All over the desk.

Re: My first contribution to Linux

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Post by leakycap »

fnicfnac wrote: post #88
leakycap wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not sure I have a healthy enough fear of death. You seem to have a very healthy fear of other things, like drivers or scooters running you over, and media buttons on computers launching life-altering software. I'm betting your fear of death might not be healthy, but possibly unhealthy in the sense you're spending your life worrying about things that... well, likely aren't gonna happen to you. Left right left an…

No external compass, something the group views as (or probably unavoidably knows to be) dangerous. Overcoming the fear of it and then belittling those who haven't completed the same process. Psychologists call that the normalization of deviance. A commercial airline pilot has the external compass in your questionable aviation example. You don't want a group with initial success with the left, right left and so much e…

When did every mundane choice became a life-or-death calculation for you? Media buttons aren't footguns. Scooters aren't assassins.

The gap between reasonable caution and this kind of hypervigilance isn't wisdom, it's self-imposed paralysis.

Running pedestrian safety and keyboard shortcuts through the same catastrophic framework is a system that's eating itself - every interaction becomes a referendum on survival.

When people point out that you aren't serving yourself with this worldview, you seem to take the disagreement as proof that others just don't see what's coming.

That's not living... that's white-knuckling through existence, mistaking the grip for control.

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