It's hard to believe this happened. South Korea has tech giants like Samsung, and yet this is how the government runs? Is the US government any better?
The US government still relies heavily on physical records.
Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available
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#83I'm sure they had dozens of process heavy cybersecurity committees producing hundreds if not thousands of powerpoints and word documents outlining procedures and best practices over the last decade. There is this weird divide between the certified class of non-technical consultants and actual overworked and pushed to corner cut techs.
Ironically many of those documents for procedures probably lived on that drive...
Here's a 2024 incident:
> "The outage also hit servers that host procedures meant to overcome such an outage... Company officials had no paper copies of backup procedures, one of the people added, leaving them unable to respond until power was restored."
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/power-failed-spacex...
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#84Mindblowing. Took a walk. All I can say is that if business continues "as usual" and the economy and public services continue largely unaffected then either there were local copies of critical documents, or you can fire a lot of those workers; either one of those ways the "stress test" was a success.
How do you come to the conclusion that because things work without certain documents that you can start laying off workers?
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Couldn’t even be bothered to do a basic 3-2-1! Wow
Did you expect government IT in a hierarchical respect-your-superiors-even-when-wrong society to be competent?
I mean...I feel you but holy hell dude. Nothing? Boggles the mind.
Edit: my bad backups in the room is something, somehow just forgot about that part
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#86I mean ... was making backups on the backlog at least? Can they at least point to the work item that was going to get done soonish?
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#87It's hard to believe this happened. South Korea has tech giants like Samsung, and yet this is how the government runs? Is the US government any better?
South Korean IT seemed to be stuck in 2007 just not too long ago, would be surprised if it has changed much in the last few years. Do the websites still require you to use internet explorer?
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#89It's hard to believe this happened. South Korea has tech giants like Samsung, and yet this is how the government runs? Is the US government any better?
Software and information technology in Korea just sucks.
buttons are jpegs/gifs, everything is on Java EE and on vulnerable old webservers etc... A lot of government stuff supports only Internet Explorer even though it's long dead
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. No automated fire suppression system for critical infrastructure with no backup?
That may not be a perfect answer. One issue with fire suppression systems and spinning rust drives is that the pressure change etc. from the system can also ‘suppress’ the glass platters in drives as well.
I'd be interested in if you can even use dry fire suppression on the 5th floor of a building.