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Re: Personal data storage is an idea whose time has come

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Post by Arthurian »

InMice wrote: post #26

Among the first page and 2nd page (top 60) there is always atleast 1 post about how we're gonnna "take back the web" or make it back into some form of our 90s millenial nostalgia memories, self hosting, federated this or that, etc etc. Meanwhile - Nothing changes, everything generally gets worse and younger generations come into the world with no memories of the 90s internet or the world before mobile devices or surv…

Yep, it’s all totally pointless so why bother thinking and dreaming of a way out, right? Even if the ideas in this post are a little unrealistic in the face of modern convenience, it’s productive to talk about it. Is there something else we should be doing instead?

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Post by rfrey »

nubinetwork wrote: post #32
9dev wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn’t the companies but the users that found it easier. There’s a reason why everyone’s on Facebook, instagram, and gmail instead of running their own hosts—because it’s vastly easier for the majority of people to do so, and because everyone else is there. We have not solved decentralisation in an accessible and useful way yet, and the incentives won’t change until we do. If ever.

God forbid that people actually have to learn and do something instead of sitting around being a doomscrolling tiktok zombie... /s

There's all sorts of things I have no interest in learning because they seem unspeakably dull.

That some people don't want to spend time learning the thing that you happen to find interesting doesn't mean they're wasting their lives.

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Post by ivanjermakov »

dd_xplore wrote: post #72

When I was a kid, a 4GB pendrive was a huge thing for me. I used to think my 40GB HDD would never fill up, but then Internet started to grow. Today it doesn’t even matter how muc storage you have it’ll always fill up. I have started to self host quite a lot of stuff but eve then every storage solution has a life of 5-6 years in which atleast one of the components would fail. We click enormous amounts of photos but th…

In the age of abundance, smart prioritization is needed.

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Post by Gud »

xandrius wrote: post #61
InMice wrote: post #26

Among the first page and 2nd page (top 60) there is always atleast 1 post about how we're gonnna "take back the web" or make it back into some form of our 90s millenial nostalgia memories, self hosting, federated this or that, etc etc. Meanwhile - Nothing changes, everything generally gets worse and younger generations come into the world with no memories of the 90s internet or the world before mobile devices or surv…

If even the people who experience a different time gives up because "nothing changes" then it's truly over. We need to do what we preach: sure, things are worse in certain things but for sure setting up a local network with top-level open source self-hosted alternatives is the easiest it has ever been ever. Also I think people forget to realise that the type of people who were online in the 90s are still online, many…

~the internet~ got easier to consume but self hosting in many ways became harder because of how hostile the internet has become.

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Post by teeray »

InMice wrote: post #26

Among the first page and 2nd page (top 60) there is always atleast 1 post about how we're gonnna "take back the web" or make it back into some form of our 90s millenial nostalgia memories, self hosting, federated this or that, etc etc. Meanwhile - Nothing changes, everything generally gets worse and younger generations come into the world with no memories of the 90s internet or the world before mobile devices or surv…

> creating endless pointless copies of your pesonal (sic) information in databases across the world that will eventually be neglected, hacked, exploited, sold off etc… I dont know the way out if there is

The data needs to be viewed by the holder of that data as a dangerous liability, not an asset. If there were headlines about “Megabank Files Bankruptcy Over Data Breach, Executives Jailed” instead of the general sentiment of “LOL another data breach, here’s a free trial of LifeLock,” there would be changing attitudes about storing arbitrary user data.

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Post by xenodium »

> Meanwhile - Nothing changes, everything generally gets worse

https://LMNO.lol is my grain of sand.

I wasn't happy the state of blogging (tracking, bloat, ads, paywalls...), so I built https://LMNO.lol. It's offline first and you can browse blogs from anywhere (even terminal). Your blog is a single Markdown file. Drag and drop it to the browser and your entire blog is generated.

Custom domains are welcome. My blog is running off LMNO.lol that https://xenodium.com

Re: Personal data storage is an idea whose time has come

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Post by jon-wood »

pessimizer wrote: post #73
xandrius wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If even the people who experience a different time gives up because "nothing changes" then it's truly over. We need to do what we preach: sure, things are worse in certain things but for sure setting up a local network with top-level open source self-hosted alternatives is the easiest it has ever been ever. Also I think people forget to realise that the type of people who were online in the 90s are still online, many…

> We need to do what we preach You start. edit: I have no idea what people think they're talking about when they're like "people should just" and "you should just." The cage is not all in your mind, dude; it's an actual cage, guarded by people with guns.

Sorry, what? There are people with guns preventing us from self hosting websites? That’s certainly news to me.

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Post by btbuildem »

seu wrote: post #6

The fact that the AT Protocol relies on everyone having a domain name, which is a centralized system over which few people have control, and about whose workings most people have no clue about, is problematic. Also impractical, once we consider that - as far as I can understand - 8 billion people should have their own domain name.

> 8 billion people should have their own domain name

That is something that could be feathered in gradually -- your country, region, city, neighbourhood, etc could have their own domains, and you could be anon237@milan.italy or whatever, until you find it necessary or inspiring to obtain your own domain.

Re: Personal data storage is an idea whose time has come

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Post by crazygringo »

dangus wrote: post #74

This article seems pretty far detached from the problems that people experience using technology. It’s the kind of thing that only deeply technical people consider. When someone uses a service like Dropbox or iCloud Drive or Google Drive, they really aren’t experiencing any kind of problem where their data “isn’t theirs” or is “trapped.” It’s not that hard to migrate to something else and the services themselves are…

> In terms of social data, users don’t really have a major issue with the status quo

That's exactly it. And with social media (unlike files and photo storage) migration isn't really something people care about, because it's about the present not the past.

If you move from Twitter to Bluesky, does anyone care about moving their tweet history? They just want their list of followers to migrate over as much as possible, which happens relatively organically anyways.

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