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Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

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Post by rapsey » Sun, Oct 05, 2025, 4:01 PM UTC

spwa4 wrote: post #79

TMWNN wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>* USAID shutdowns The rest of the world is not entitled to unlimited American funds for all time. >* DOE downsizing (ie. killing education) Canada doesn't even have a federal-level education department. Is Canada filled with uneducated morons? >As for the spacex contracts: a cheaper price only helps if it actually leads to less spending. Since the US cannot risk spacex being the only access to space, it cannot cut f…

Thanks for making this comment. I can not imagine a stronger endorsement that mr. Musk and SpaceX/Tesler are responsible for all these things, that neither company is really a positive for the US. Btw: if you're going to be racist, don't you have a problem with the fact that mr. Musk ... is not an American? I mean that is the one thing I'll credit Musk with: making Trump suck his ** in front of conservative "we hate…

How is he rasist?

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

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Post by matt-attack » Sun, Oct 05, 2025, 4:05 PM UTC

MattRix wrote: post #31

mudil wrote: post #30

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What did their boss do that makes you feel so so sad?

have you been living under a rock?

I sort of follow and as a liberal I struggle to find much to get worked up over. Things I see: the number of friends who now own electric cars (all Teslas) well ten years ago truly scoffed at the idea. Tesla sold 1/2 million cars THIS LAST QUARTER. Their highest ever. That’s 1/2 million gas engines not sold. I attribute all of that to one person. Full stop. Anything else is delusional.

I saw fellow liberals protesting the Tesla cafe in Los Angeles. They’re actively discouraging people from buying electric. Global warming is the more important threat to our species and these fellow liberals are ACTIVELY DISCOURAGING people from buying and owning electric cars. Truly the mind boggles.

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

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Post by csallen » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 5:47 PM UTC

spwa4 wrote: post #79

TMWNN wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>* USAID shutdowns The rest of the world is not entitled to unlimited American funds for all time. >* DOE downsizing (ie. killing education) Canada doesn't even have a federal-level education department. Is Canada filled with uneducated morons? >As for the spacex contracts: a cheaper price only helps if it actually leads to less spending. Since the US cannot risk spacex being the only access to space, it cannot cut f…

Thanks for making this comment. I can not imagine a stronger endorsement that mr. Musk and SpaceX/Tesler are responsible for all these things, that neither company is really a positive for the US. Btw: if you're going to be racist, don't you have a problem with the fact that mr. Musk ... is not an American? I mean that is the one thing I'll credit Musk with: making Trump suck his ** in front of conservative "we hate…

> Btw: if you're going to be racist

I lean pretty far left myself. But this kind of comment is why I think the left keeps losing.

The person you're engaging with is presenting rational arguments and logic in good faith, and instead of engaging and disagreeing and presenting your own counterarguments, you're just labeling them a racist.

This is not persuasive to anyone. In fact, it massively hurts your case, as readers assume you simply don't have any good reasons to support you. And I'd say it goes even further, and hurts "the left" as a whole, as people are conditioned to view that movement as in support of silencing conversation. Fewer than 20% of the population wants to live in a world where legitimate discussion might have you branded as a racist, homophobe, sexist, fascist, etc.

And not only that, it completely weakens the word. If you use the word "racist" to describe pretty much anyone who disagrees with you, then suddenly it applies to the vast majority of people, at which point it (by definition) no longer describes behavior that society finds unacceptable. Then it loses all power to cause anyone to actually reflect on themselves, or to take it seriously when the charge is levied against others.

I highly recommend reserving these words for the specific and rare times where they actually apply.