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ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#81
post #19

Yet another reason to dump Twitter, Meta, Tiktok and other social sites. People can always go mack to USENET and IRC if they want to make it hard to be tracked :)

Matrix, session, simplex seems like a interesting idea too. Not sure if signal allows anonymous-ish personas for their groups but simplex definitely does but out of all the options given, maybe irc is the most well known :) So irc it is lol

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Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#82
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certainly depends on who you ask

What’s the steelman argument for the US actually doing well?

The strongest arguments I've seen used seriously are economic: S&P500, unicorns, and nominal GDP.

I no longer find these arguments convincing.

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#83
post #32

Yeah, that's some Gestapo level business... or since they don't like that word, Stasi. As in, there were loads of people in the DDR (East Germany, 1949-1989) whose job it was to read people's personal mail, along with the network of neighborhood snitches.

All those out of work programmers here's an opprotunity to create some disruption, pad your resume, and possibly create a job. While we still have a free internet, it would be great to see efforts to create technology to replace centralized social media, cloud-tech, and businesses. We need to make it so fucking hard for the gov, advertisers to get access to your data that it very expensive to maintain a system like t…

The network effect and the funding is the hard part. People want to be on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram because they spend billions hosting images for free and they have a million para social friends there

Any competitor will have to compete not on technical competence or privacy, but on "can I upload lots of HD video?" and "are my favorite celebrities there?"

Offramps to let people migrate easier, syndication to let people leave and still do POSSE, a solution to the problem that all free image hosting eventually attracts CSAM, those are difficult problems

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they’ll use bots to detect the bots. I guarantee it’s not hard to detect outliers (bots) via many different heuristics at this point. It’s going to turn into a perpetual game of whack a mole just like SEO and ad blocking.

I'm going to modify my keyboard to generate em-dash when I input "-"...

Option+shift+dash, on a default English Mac keyboard. Easy to remember—"modify [option] the dash [dash] to make the biggest common form of it [shift]", or else you can think of it as modifying the underscore (shift + dash) to sit higher on the line (with option).

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#85
post #49

Some people: "Great, this will help them get criminals and other bad people off the street." Some other people: "More fascism. This is Trump's version of the SS. It's absolutely horrible and we are doomed if this continues." The world continues to spin.

> The world continues to spin. It kept spinning while millions were murdered during WWII as well. Did you have an actual point to make or did you just come here to be dismissive?

Yes, and has continued to spin over millions of years as various atrocities have occurred. The question for everyone: what are you going to do about it?

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

E.g., https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33755016 from 2022. Only N-gram frequency analysis, no modern ML techniques needed. Probably time for somebody to revisit this topic with an actual model.

That's not even close to "reliable and definitive". I'll give you "suggestive". And it presumably has certain volume requirements.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but do you consider handwriting comparisons "reliable and definitive"?

Because juries regularly convict people in courts based on such evidence.

Maybe a better question is, what is the level of "reliable and definitive" that evidence would need to reach for you to believe it should be admissible in court?

I suspect that maybe that's the misunderstanding. The level for you is much higher than maybe it is in the justice system. Which is fine. But that doesn't change the justice system. In court, the currently accepted levels are still enough.

People will be free to try to refute the attributions during the proceedings if they think it will do any good. I mean the adversarial system is also part of the justice system.

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#87

It’s pretty clear that ICE is the seed of a paramilitary force.

Is it true there like 15 Million undocumented people in the country? I thought there were like 1 million max.

By definition, it is impossible to count this accurately and can only be estimated from shadow variables.

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#88
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter what I think. The reality is most people who voted, voted for this or something like this. This will only change at the ballot box, assuming you believe in fair elections.

So what is your actual point? Is there a true reality in your world or is it just all political spin? Does ICE's violence against US citizens even exist in your worldview? Is ICE's violence against US citizens something that is objectively true in your eyes? Say something concrete.

Many people are upset, many people aren't. My point is: what are you going to do about it?

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#89
post #14

What happened to all those 2nd Amendment conservatives who needed their guns to protect us from the governments jack booted thugs?

The 2A guys have only ever been LARPers.

The 2A guys overwhelmingly voted for this and will be more than willing to take up arms when it's time to put the untermenschen against the wall.
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