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iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Post by JohnBooty »

iman453 wrote: post #75
JohnBooty wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was downvoted, but not the guy asking easily-Googleable questions. Right. So, I guess it's clear: we want more people asking stuff that can be answered by the first Google search result... by the article title itself. Got it.

It's not what you said, it's the way you said it.

Non-rhetorical question: How do we say "Please, perform a cursory Google search before posting questions like that."

That's less snarky, but still pretty snarky. It's hard to sugarcoat the fact that the parent poster literally didn't read the title of the first Google result.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Post by stuross »

maggit wrote: post #73
stuross wrote: post #57

Updating to 10.8.2 has broken virtualbox for me. The error I'm getting is: "VT-x is being used by another hypervisor". I'd be careful updating if you use virtualbox for development.

I see the same thing. I tried reinstalling/updating to the latest version of VirtualBox, but it did not help. Update : I managed to disable VT-x by following the procedure described at http://tech.techteam.gr/virtualbox-vt-x-problem-cannot-disab... and starting the virutal machine with VBoxHeadless. However, this immediately made my host machine completely lock up, so I cannot recommend it :)

I was told in virtualboxes's irc to check back tomorrow for an update. apparently the devs aren't around right now.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Post by philwelch »

ajross wrote: post #72
astral303 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple needs to take their massive $$$ warchest and spend an inordinate amount of money on getting maps back up in shape. Each of those $'s is worth it. It's an absolutely crucial feature and it needs to be not just good enough, it needs to be really good and better than most. My fear is now Apple is becoming more bean counter and less passion, strong-opinion driven. To let Maps out in this shape is a troubling misste…

That falls afoul of Brooks' law though. Apple isn't limited by development cash in any meaningful way. They're limited by staff. There aren't that many world class developers out there. Apple is grabbing up all they can, but they're in competition with a lot of other companies with sizable war chests. And the ones Apple has are hard at work already. Google's been throwing world class talent at maps for the better par…

Apple Maps might need some code improvement, but what they really need is data improvement, and that can be bought.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Post by baddox »

ajross wrote: post #72
astral303 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple needs to take their massive $$$ warchest and spend an inordinate amount of money on getting maps back up in shape. Each of those $'s is worth it. It's an absolutely crucial feature and it needs to be not just good enough, it needs to be really good and better than most. My fear is now Apple is becoming more bean counter and less passion, strong-opinion driven. To let Maps out in this shape is a troubling misste…

That falls afoul of Brooks' law though. Apple isn't limited by development cash in any meaningful way. They're limited by staff. There aren't that many world class developers out there. Apple is grabbing up all they can, but they're in competition with a lot of other companies with sizable war chests. And the ones Apple has are hard at work already. Google's been throwing world class talent at maps for the better par…

> Apple is grabbing up all they can, but they're in competition with a lot of other companies with sizable war chests.

Why not start a price war for developers? Presumably Apple has plenty of funds to start offering developers, say, double what they're offering now. If developer skill and/or quality is really a primary concern for Apple, what is stopping them from simply offering more compensation? (Obviously, I'm not suggesting that this would be a quick fix to their maps project.)

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Post by untog »

high5ths wrote: post #42
jpxxx wrote: post #17

The native iOS 6 Maps are just short of wretched. No transit directions, unhelpful default views, a dramatically weaker points of interest database, weaker scrolling performance, and a busier UI that doesn't add anything of great use. It's a rather big turd in an otherwise delicious punchbowl, and it is going to become a real-world talking point about iPhones starting today.

I was actually thrilled that for transit directions in NYC, Maps just gave me a button to the Embark app, which won the MTA App Quest for best subway navigation in the city. It has a better interface than Google Maps for transit, anyway. It's obviously an extra step to go to another app, but if the experience is better in the long run, I'm willing to go with it. Google Maps has been annoying on iOS for a while -- eve…

I was actually thrilled that for transit directions in NYC, Maps just gave me a button to the Embark app

I don't understand how you can be thrilled about that. It's a link to the App Store, and represents one less option available to you.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Post by mgkimsal »

JohnBooty wrote: post #21
mgkimsal wrote: post #10

Didn't see any word on battery life fixes in 10.8.2 - any notes on this?

Here, let me Google that for you. The first Google result was this article, "OS X 10.8.2 Restores Notebook Battery Life to OS X Lion Levels." http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/10/os-x-10-8-2-restores-not... In the future, if we're not around to look things up for you - give it a try sometime. http://google.com

Sweet, except

a) i only went and bothered to look at some mac sites, not the all powerful everything in my life revolves around google

and

b) nothing was on the mac sites when I looked except "hey this new stuff is out" - nothing specifically on the battery life changes

and

c) I was actually sort of hoping someone who's not dependent on being pro-apple and ad revenue on their site might have real life experience to share.

oh, and finally

d) that link is nowhere near the 'first result' for all google searches on that topic. the fact that it was number 1 for whatever particular phrase you searched for doesn't mean it's "#1" for everyone all the time. Most of what I found was "Apple says they're going to release something that will improve the battery life", but no hard experience.

tl;dr - your google search results aren't everyone's, and not everyone googles for everything all the time as their default life mode.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Post by slith »

stuross wrote: post #57

Updating to 10.8.2 has broken virtualbox for me. The error I'm getting is: "VT-x is being used by another hypervisor". I'd be careful updating if you use virtualbox for development.

have you tried updating VirtualBox to 4.2? this seems to have fixed the problems with the 10.8.2 update.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Post by astral303 »

philwelch wrote: post #83
ajross wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That falls afoul of Brooks' law though. Apple isn't limited by development cash in any meaningful way. They're limited by staff. There aren't that many world class developers out there. Apple is grabbing up all they can, but they're in competition with a lot of other companies with sizable war chests. And the ones Apple has are hard at work already. Google's been throwing world class talent at maps for the better par…

Apple Maps might need some code improvement, but what they really need is data improvement, and that can be bought.

Yes, I meant the data improvement. Pay people to get all major metros internationally double-checked and corrected. Pay for POI data entry or develop that separately.
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