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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by 2d8a875f-39a2-4 »

eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

Sounds about right.

These kids have been on camera since they were in the womb. The delivery had a pro videographer. Parents had baby monitors with a video feed, later a nanny cam. Schools had cameras in the classrooms and busses from before first grade. Higher grades onwards all their peers had smartphones and social media accounts.

Some middle aged dude who doesn't want to be on video makes no sense to them, like that weird uncle of yours who in 2010 had no phone or email address.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by AlecSchueler »

balderdash wrote: post #54

I think the laws around this are fairly antiquated. People should clearly have the right to photograph in public, however, I strongly believe that should someone take someone else’s photograph they shouldn’t need their consent to post the photo publicly or monetize it in anyway. Obviously, there should be some limited car outs like public servants in the commission of their duties, legitimate news organizations, use…

The laws in Switzerland are actually what you're describing.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by Gigachad »

aeve890 wrote: post #75
Gigachad wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. But you have to accept that being around other people means some people do things you aren’t a fan of.

>but it’s also just part of life. Yeah? Who said that? Any selfish person can say the same about anything. "Yeah my dog shat your lawn but that's just part of life. Deal with it". What's part of life is different for everyone. >I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. Yeah that's annoying, but neither the smoke or the honk are records of your private life published without consent…

I personally don’t believe that filming airsoft is unreasonable. It’s not unreasonable for OP to not like it, but the majority are either fine with it or filming themselves. So it’s a situation of either dealing with it, or finding a new group to hang out with.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by ionwake »

haskellshill wrote: post #80
ionwake wrote: post #74

I’m not sure if anyone has missed the delicious irony that airsoft is one of the rare sports where faces and thus identity is covered , pretty much the whole time. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a human face or anything identifiable in ANY airsoft video I’ve ever seen. So while the author makes an interesting point about surveillance I can’t tell if he’s being ironic on purpose.

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Haha I find this could be true but can you explain your reasoning if you don’t mind ? Thanks !

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by crazygringo »

ljm wrote: post #48
crazygringo wrote: post #14

The answer seems pretty simple. Ask your teammates not to take videos, or find a different group or a different hobby. But since they genuinely enjoy posting the videos, and there's nothing wrong with that, you're probably the one who's going to have move on. You're entitled to not want videos of you taken in public places showing up online. But you're not entitled to getting that outcome.

I expect an airsoft venue is actually a private space, not a public one. Airsoft but-actually-in-public would have people concerned about a terrorist attack, not being recorded for insta. To that extent, the hobbyists who like to create content for the internet should be asking for consent since their footage, and arguably their clout, depends on the participation of everybody else in the group. Otherwise they're jus…

If it's private then it's up to the owner.

And they may very well have decided that more customers want to take and share videos, than there are customers who are bothered by it.

And nobody is talking about monetizing content here. There's no profit. If there were, that would be a different conversation obviously. But the post did not bring that up.

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Post by brna-2 »

crazygringo wrote: post #45
ixsploit wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you know, not making it public. And if you might need to make the photo public, you could blur the faces.

And your want to make that the law, so you get fined or go to jail if you don't blur everyone's face on every photo you post if you haven't gotten a signed consent from them?

For me not necessarily, I would like a mechanism for distinction and a culture where you respect people you record.

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Post by andersa »

crazygringo wrote: post #65
andersa wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes.

Well, thanks for being honest. That's not a world I would want to live in, and I guess I'm thankful most other people don't either. The ability to photograph is important for accountability and truth in a democracy, it's important to families wanting to document and share their trips easily, and it's important for art, among many other things. Fundamentally, it feels like a kind of freedom to me. But it's interesting…

You can do all of those things without creating a public record of me.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by parsimo2010 »

I don’t know about the UK, but in the USA the idea of “if you don’t want to be in photos published online, don’t be in public spaces” is pretty regularly upheld in courts. You don’t have an expectation of privacy in a public space.

You might have some recourse if another person’s video singles you out, but just being one of the several people in an airsoft video, where your face is partially obscured anyway, isn’t much of a legal standing.

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Post by crazygringo »

andersa wrote: post #49
crazygringo wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. It wouldn't be nice to solve it, because it would mean nobody could ever take a picture of anything where there might be anyone recognizable in the background, without getting them to sign some kind of model release first. Is that what you want? For innocent photography in public to be essentially outlawed?

> Is that what you want? Yes. I would like to go back to a time before everyone had 3 different cameras with them and the ability to share those photos to a global network so third parties can use that data to track what I am doing literally everywhere. I no longer leave my house except for strictly necessary obligations.

Genuine question, what are you worried about that this is affecting how often you leave your house?

What is making that the best cost-benefit analysis for you?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by op00to »

aeve890 wrote: post #75
Gigachad wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. But you have to accept that being around other people means some people do things you aren’t a fan of.

>but it’s also just part of life. Yeah? Who said that? Any selfish person can say the same about anything. "Yeah my dog shat your lawn but that's just part of life. Deal with it". What's part of life is different for everyone. >I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. Yeah that's annoying, but neither the smoke or the honk are records of your private life published without consent…

Dog shit is a part of life. Shitty people are a part of life.
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