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Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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lomase wrote: post #72
recursive wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The video seems to be trying to convince me that this is totally targeted at actual musicians. But I guess maybe that's how their target users imagine themselves?

As much as I think making AI music is the pinacle of lazynes and instant gratification, in my opinion they are actual musicians. What I mean is that in a DAW you have a lots of tools that don't make sense in AI context. Like for example, people who use agentic workflows don't need a Visual Studio license.

Well, music is art. Some of it is done for hire or commission. Most code is written for an employer or contract. Code written as art is an edge case.

For advertising jingles it makes some sense. For artistic expression, like... what's the point?

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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input_sh wrote: post #79
polishdude20 wrote: post #56

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You can get a vst to run locally and still work with the browser.

Okay, but why would you? What's the advantage of that? VSTs are resource hogs (when you have like 10+ running at once), not DAWs. I somehow doubt a full-blown browser connected to more than a couple of VSTs would be less of a resource hog than doing the same in a DAW. On your computer. That you own. In your house. Without like additional 50ms of latency for the data to travel to the server and back.

I just assumed all the audio data would be local even in a "browser DAW", so VST calls wouldn't go through a network.

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by lomase »

recursive wrote: post #81
lomase wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I think making AI music is the pinacle of lazynes and instant gratification, in my opinion they are actual musicians. What I mean is that in a DAW you have a lots of tools that don't make sense in AI context. Like for example, people who use agentic workflows don't need a Visual Studio license.

Well, music is art. Some of it is done for hire or commission. Most code is written for an employer or contract. Code written as art is an edge case. For advertising jingles it makes some sense. For artistic expression, like... what's the point?

If the act of creating this AI music provides joy to them... I think they are artist

I used to release music that people listend to, but not anymore, now the only joy comes from making it for myself. Am I still an artist?

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by recursive »

lomase wrote: post #83
recursive wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, music is art. Some of it is done for hire or commission. Most code is written for an employer or contract. Code written as art is an edge case. For advertising jingles it makes some sense. For artistic expression, like... what's the point?

If the act of creating this AI music provides joy to them... I think they are artist I used to release music that people listend to, but not anymore, now the only joy comes from making it for myself. Am I still an artist?

In my book, you are definitely an artist. Perhaps the purest kind, not that it's a competition.

If the act of creating this AI music provides joy to some, they should do it. I just have a hard time understanding that.

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by lomase »

jasongrishkoff wrote: post #70
BrokenCogs wrote: post #63

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If only I could use it before logging in.

After login it's free. But my site has been targeted by a lot of spam/abuse over the last decade, and login is something I've needed to set up to avoid that :(

We just can't have nice things anymore.

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by lomase »

jononor wrote: post #55

How is the stem support these days? In particular I would like to create some songs with vocals (my lyrics), then be able to remove the vocal track and replace it with my own.

I don't know if Suno does it, but it should be doable.

For voice removal I use Ultimate Vocal Track Remover, is on Github.

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by CollinEMac »

jjangkke wrote: post #10

What's special about Suno 5 is that the songs are actually good to listen to in place of professionally produced songs. For example, my favorite genre is new jack swing and there is a very limited number of this genre as it was briefly popular during the 90s. Now I have an endless supply of it and you can't tell that its AI produced anymore. Sure to an expert they might be able to detect it but for consumers its just…

> I really think we are headed towards and over supply of content where there will be more stuff to read, watch, listen with very real value in all of them.

We're already here with human created content.

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by wilg »

tbeseda wrote: post #57
jjangkke wrote: post #10

What's special about Suno 5 is that the songs are actually good to listen to in place of professionally produced songs. For example, my favorite genre is new jack swing and there is a very limited number of this genre as it was briefly popular during the 90s. Now I have an endless supply of it and you can't tell that its AI produced anymore. Sure to an expert they might be able to detect it but for consumers its just…

> as a consumer I could care less if you put your soul and years into producing art vs the one I can get a lot of today a quantity over quality argument with regard to art is wild.

people just start liking things if there is a lot of it

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by pandaxtc »

jjangkke wrote: post #10

What's special about Suno 5 is that the songs are actually good to listen to in place of professionally produced songs. For example, my favorite genre is new jack swing and there is a very limited number of this genre as it was briefly popular during the 90s. Now I have an endless supply of it and you can't tell that its AI produced anymore. Sure to an expert they might be able to detect it but for consumers its just…

> as a consumer I could care less if you put your soul and years into producing art vs the one I can get a lot of today and now especially when there is virtually no difference in quality

as a fellow consumer I care a lot actually

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