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Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Post by azemetre »

stingraycharles wrote: post #68
mosura wrote: post #4

Eventually all Internet protocols will be MITMed by cloudflare. Your single point of interception!

To be honest, the internet was worse without Cloudflare, so as long as they provide a good service for their customers, I’m fine with it. This is one of those. Google is in a perfect position to compete but they don’t, so it’s not like Cloudflare is a monopoly or something. At least they’re not selling ads using your data.

If Cloudflare is so vital to the internet, it should be nationalized for the public benefit as having a private entity with so much control over the internet is not a good thing. Corporatized control of the internet should not be encouraged.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Post by mrbluecoat »

stingraycharles wrote: post #68
mosura wrote: post #4

Eventually all Internet protocols will be MITMed by cloudflare. Your single point of interception!

To be honest, the internet was worse without Cloudflare, so as long as they provide a good service for their customers, I’m fine with it. This is one of those. Google is in a perfect position to compete but they don’t, so it’s not like Cloudflare is a monopoly or something. At least they’re not selling ads using your data.

Arguably, ecommerce was worse without Amazon but are we really better off?

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Post by overfeed »

NetOpWibby wrote: post #61
gethly wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was about to comment on this but you got right to the point. All of this is because people are lazy to build, let alone maintain, their own damn programs and servers.

OOF Do you talk to your customers with that mouth? For those who are lazy to click, this guy's business is hosting and maintaining a sales platform for people.

What's the problem? GP is addressing a market need consistent with their comment above. I wouldn't be surprised by a auto mechanic stating that (too) many people are too lazy to change their oil - they might be the best person to manke that observation, given their PoV.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Post by NooneAtAll3 »

stingraycharles wrote: post #68
mosura wrote: post #4

Eventually all Internet protocols will be MITMed by cloudflare. Your single point of interception!

To be honest, the internet was worse without Cloudflare, so as long as they provide a good service for their customers, I’m fine with it. This is one of those. Google is in a perfect position to compete but they don’t, so it’s not like Cloudflare is a monopoly or something. At least they’re not selling ads using your data.

you're right

internet is made sooo much better by negating all encryption effort of the last 20 years

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Post by citizenpaul »

azemetre wrote: post #81
stingraycharles wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, the internet was worse without Cloudflare, so as long as they provide a good service for their customers, I’m fine with it. This is one of those. Google is in a perfect position to compete but they don’t, so it’s not like Cloudflare is a monopoly or something. At least they’re not selling ads using your data.

If Cloudflare is so vital to the internet, it should be nationalized for the public benefit as having a private entity with so much control over the internet is not a good thing. Corporatized control of the internet should not be encouraged.

I would say if the political environment pre 1980s was still in existence that might be true. Today that would just mean the entire thing would unravel as it ate its own tail in the race to the bottom environment we are currently in.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Post by bachmeier »

richwater wrote: post #76
bachmeier wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$10/year for 10,000 messages/year is 10 cents per message. (Or some other volume at 10 cents/message.) Surely too high for spammers but cheap enough for an app with a low message volume.

It's not about optimizing for low volume side projects. Barrier to entry for (12 * $20) is much higher than $10/year and they figure that was worth the tradeoff of losing small fish customers.

Well, I was responding to your claim that "it appears they became too tired of verifying/validating users to not send spam" is the reason for killing their low-volume free tier. It's a different story if they dropped the free tier to focus on large-volume customers.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Post by mtrovo »

Kind of off-topic, but it's such a pity that we arrived at email as the local minimum for the best communication protocol for transactional messages. Having to set up an email service just to be able to enable authentication flows on a new website is such a hindrance that I keep wondering if it would be different if sending push notifications to a cell phone was made an open protocol..

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Post by boarush »

thomgo wrote: post #69
ahmedfromtunis wrote: post #12

I've been using email workers for years now. Adding the ability to send emails directly from workers will be amazing!

Fun fact, you can actually use the current send_email binding to send emails to verified emails in your account (but this announcement will make it possible to send emails to everyone)

You can also reply to incoming emails from what I know, you just cannot initiate any email directly to prevent the obvious abuse. I wonder how they plan to mitigate that apart from keeping the pricing sane.
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