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Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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This is unrelated to Ruby and the author is against free speech because he wants to professionaly censor someone because of his work-unrelated opinions. Plus there are perfectly valid reasons to prefer some categories of people over others. It has nothing to do with hate or fascism, it's only natural. I'm a DINK (double-income no kids) and I don't feel the hate of DDH, I only see someone who thinks it's worthwhile to…

Wait, people are complaining about his views on having children now?

Hilarious

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

#83
post #52

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Hate to break it to you but, sample size of 9, my entire friend group talks like this. We're all in our 30s. Language changes. The construction "what's up" and its extension "what's up with ..." didn't become widely accepted until Bugs Bunny brought it into the mainstream, and yet you use it as naturally as anything else at the beginning of your message. I don't know that it's particularly constructive to dish on thi…

The subheading is “ The drama never ends, but I am here to take a stand and do something about it”. It is total hypocrisy. If you and your friends all talk in this way you are just oblivious to the fact you are the problem.

Whilst I don’t necessarily disagree with your overall point, this kind of inflammatory commentary which has taken a solid step into personal attack territory

> If you and your friends all talk in this way you are just oblivious to the fact you are the problem.

isn’t really helping, is it?

Moreover, generational complaints about use of language and communication style are solidly off topic and do not rise above the level of cliche.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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It only matters in comparison to the rest of the UK, you don't know how they are collected/recorded differently across countries.

London has a lower knife crime rate than the West Midlands. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04... Hope that helps!

Interesting it says knife crime for 23/24 was up 16% for London. I wonder if they only record convictions so the 19% decrease will change as people are convicted.

Also West Midlands is that not Biringham etc? Is that not one of the other mostly non-white places in the UK? You could have pointed to number 3 on the list Cleveland being mostly white(95%+ I think) and not being much lower than London.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The subheading is “ The drama never ends, but I am here to take a stand and do something about it”. It is total hypocrisy. If you and your friends all talk in this way you are just oblivious to the fact you are the problem.

Whilst I don’t necessarily disagree with your overall point, this kind of inflammatory commentary which has taken a solid step into personal attack territory > If you and your friends all talk in this way you are just oblivious to the fact you are the problem. isn’t really helping, is it? Moreover, generational complaints about use of language and communication style are solidly off topic and do not rise above the le…

> isn’t really helping, is it?

It isn’t wrong. How else are you supposed to tell people that their behavior indicates that their removal is a feature and not a bug?

> Moreover, generational complaints about use of language and communication style are solidly off topic and do not rise above the level of cliche.

There are no generational complaints. The problem is gossip culture, as indicated by the language.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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post #2

His tone is so histrionic. I'm glad the influence of people like this is now somewhat lower than 5 years ago.

I stopped reading at the point he described Basecamp as having imploded.

Can we please at least try to be a little more objective in how we use language?

You may agree or disagree with what Basecamp, now 37signals, did but the company did not “implode”.

Many of their employees - one third - did disagree with what they did and chose to leave.

Was their leaving a protest? Well, maybe. But IIRC they were offered very generous severance terms, which would have made that choice much easier to make and so perhaps robs it of some of its value as a protest.

And what about the company? Well, as far as I can tell, they seem to be doing fine. They’re offering junior devs, was it 125k or 150k US fully remote? Somewhere in that ballpark anyway. And just about anywhere within a certain range of time zones. That’s not a sign of a company that’s struggling.

I have read DHH’s blog post about London, and I am a Brit, so think I can offer a somewhat qualified point of view here. DHH is correct about the demographic changes in London over the past decades, but he’s absolutely wrong to cast Tommy Robinson (aka Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) as some kind of good faith activist standing up for the rights of ordinary British folks. The guy is a criminal and a low-life grifter. I can’t even really call him a fascist because I’m not convinced he really believes a word he’s saying. So I’ll stick with con-artist.

Back to the post: the most charitable interpretation I can put on it is that DHH simply hasn’t done his homework on Robinson. Is that an accurate characterisation? I honestly don’t know.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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post #84
post #79

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London has a lower knife crime rate than the West Midlands. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04... Hope that helps!

Interesting it says knife crime for 23/24 was up 16% for London. I wonder if they only record convictions so the 19% decrease will change as people are convicted. Also West Midlands is that not Biringham etc? Is that not one of the other mostly non-white places in the UK? You could have pointed to number 3 on the list Cleveland being mostly white(95%+ I think) and not being much lower than London.

It's almost like crime isn't that strongly correlated with the ethnic mix of a place! I'm sorry reality doesn't support your racism.

Of course, if you don't believe the police data, that page suggests you look at hospital admissions.

Again, as I said, London is lovely. You said there was a problem with knife crime. I pointed out that London is lower than a comparable major US city. It's also lower than several areas in the UK.

Come and visit - don't believe the lies being spread.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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Wait, people are complaining about his views on having children now?

Hilarious

I mean, what's the take here? Discrimination against people who can't have children? Hatred towards those who won't? Did he only encourage people of a certain race to have children?

I remember listening to some interviews/podcasts where he discussed this. I don't have children myself, but I did not detect any malice in his arguments.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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Mate, I live in London. It's great. Come visit and enjoy a pint of beer. Travel will help you pull your head out of the sand.

you should probably travel a bit yourself mate, if you think London is great, you will get your mind blown being anywhere else

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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This is the decay of the current political discourse. World views that disparage human beings where previously condemned but the overton window slowly shifted the topic of eg. "degenerates" back into the public. Even though we are thankfully not quite there to talk openly about a final solution (that time might come!). It started with "edgy humor" and ambigous statements and slowly increased in misantrophy and number…

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I am not a propnent of cencorship or loose labeling as nazi etc. too. Identity politics is unfortunately also part of the left, which allows right wing media to manipulate the gullible by mis-portraying the left with dislikeable stereotypes of LGBTQ/communism/violence etc.

> we have enough of this

So do i. But what to do about it?

Having a clear, open and hopefully constructive conversation about

> we need to reduce immigration

would take one of two pathes (once we have agreed on that migration is required). Either the problems with migrants are inherent to them or to the society they grew up in. Its the nature vs nurture debate.

Path 1 would be the dehumanising, simple-minded right wing "pill". Path 2 is the complex left stance about wealth distribution leading to better social mobility, more stable families, strengthening institutions, communities and democracies, blablabla.

Which path would you take?

Would it be too much, if id call trump a nazi or could you still politically align yourself with someone who does?

You didnt state "we need to reduce _criminal_ migration."

Trump campaigned against criminal mexicans and is now deporting any hard working migrant, even when they are welcome in the local community and valuable members of society. ... like a racist? Maybe even a nazi?

I am tired of not having clear, open and constructrive conversations about self-critizing topics with people. I think, my previous post described the the political conversation matter pretty good and suprisingly not that inflamatory and all you responded was basically "but look at what the left does!"

I think you cannot imagine how often i got such a reply from right wingers and how increasingly annoying it is.

How do we fix this?

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