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Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

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Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

#83

What I don't understand is, why don't the authorities think the actual bad guys will avoid the surveillance? It seems to me that organized crime will find their own solution, and the rest of us will occasionally have a snooping policeman checking our private messages. It's not unknown, even in Denmark, that people who are given access to private data will abuse it, eg snooping on ex girlfriends, that kind of thing. W…

It is additional tool. More tools -> better chance at catching the criminals. Downsides are purely theoretical and only brought up by conspiracy theorists and academics. (Technically correct, the best kind..)

When every tool is a hammer, even a screw gets hammered in

Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

#84
post #66
post #59

Can somebody explain to me how backdooring every app does not lead to the real risk of an entire population's bank accounts being emptied, or similar more hidden but widespread attacks that absolutely cripple any country doing this? Almost immediately, enemy State actors will have almost as complete access as the government passing the law; blackmail will become trivial; they could just subtly weaken adversaries nons…

Why haven't those things already happened? Many messaging apps including SMS and Telegram are centralized without E2E.

This was literally headline news last year for SMS https://www.npr.org/2024/12/17/nx-s1-5223490/text-messaging-...

Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

#86
post #49

I can't wait to find out what politicians are sending!

The text, of course, excludes politicians and other important people(tm) from being monitored.

Just making sure everybody realises (because the comment sounds a tad sarcastic), but that comment is completely true - the politicians have quite seriously exempted themselves and certain types of people.

Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

#87
post #4

Does anyone really think it won't pass?

Every time Chat Control comes up, people do chime in and say talking about it like it's going to pass is 'alarmism', but every time it's raised again it gets closer.

The European people are being worn down, eventually those who want this will get it through - and unfortunately this kind of thing is extremely difficult to repeal (think of the children!)

Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

#89

So this is the future? The government spies on all communications 24/7 like the stasi? Where does civilization go from here?

Worse than Stasi. Denmark spied on Swedish politicians for US.

I have zero confidence that "the Worlds least corrupt country" is actually the least corrupt.

Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

#90
post #74

So this is the future? The government spies on all communications 24/7 like the stasi? Where does civilization go from here?

Eventually revolution.

That's going to be harder if the government spies on everything.
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