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Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by StevenWaterman »

vrighter wrote: post #79
EmptyCoffeeCup wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty common in dryers as well. They turn over and blow cold air periodically to prevent them getting stinky.

but why???? If i have already gotten off my ass to go throw the clothes in it and so I'm literally standing right next to it, in what universe won't I just press "start" and instead press a bunch of buttons to set up a timer?

If you want to run it overnight, or while you're at work, so it finishes as you arrive and doesn't leave the clean clothes in a clump for hours (or so it runs during cheaper power hours)

Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by swiftcoder »

vrighter wrote: post #79
EmptyCoffeeCup wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty common in dryers as well. They turn over and blow cold air periodically to prevent them getting stinky.

but why???? If i have already gotten off my ass to go throw the clothes in it and so I'm literally standing right next to it, in what universe won't I just press "start" and instead press a bunch of buttons to set up a timer?

They also sell combo units (mostly for small apartments), so you don't actually have to move the clothes to one from the other

Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by swiftcoder »

leakycap wrote: post #2

> "After more than a decade of service .... users can no longer open/close or manage their door lock via the mobile app or web portal." Wow, a whole ten years for a door lock. Kind of like wemo's recent abandonment/EOL of their plugs... a big company like belkin can't keep an on/off switch working?

At least with the wemo there is fairly decent 3rd-party support at this point...

Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by yamakadi »

vrighter wrote: post #79
EmptyCoffeeCup wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty common in dryers as well. They turn over and blow cold air periodically to prevent them getting stinky.

but why???? If i have already gotten off my ass to go throw the clothes in it and so I'm literally standing right next to it, in what universe won't I just press "start" and instead press a bunch of buttons to set up a timer?

In Japan, most regions have cheaper electricity at night, sometimes at up to 50-60% discounts. That might be a factor as well.

It’s not common to have separate units here though. Much easier to setup a wash/dry cycle timer.

Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by mahrain »

There really are too few business models available to build sustainable IoT solutions, apart from subscriptions (and only Security companies seem to have figured this out), pyramid schemes (letting your new users pay for maintaining the whole solution), or plain old planned obsolescence (with forced upgrades, like with Smartphones).

I'm not sure what models would work, apart from regulators stepping in and mandating x years of updates, like with the European regulations. Which basically comes down to #3.

Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by h4ch1 »

I'd recommend everyone who buys IoT devices first search if the device is jailbreak-able and/or guides exist that enable you to load homebrew software/control it with open source alternatives.

I have yet to have a single issue with any of my IoT devices because I always make sure I have an escape hatch when the manufacturer decides to pull the plug.

Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by anilakar »

diftraku wrote: post #80
privatelypublic wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of their digital lock designs had a rather cough Pleasing vulnerability. But other than that it's vendor lock-in (heh), and lack of availability in the US. With most so called locksmiths being drillsmiths in the US, not being able to clone DD and dimple keys. Puck one. Or maybe the OP is just bitter they can't pick it for their next "belt" after getting chuffed with themselves picking average american garbage.

> One of their digital lock designs had a rather cough Pleasing vulnerability. I'm assuming you're referring to the VingCard vulnerability from 2018? ( https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43896360 ) Digital locks aside, this is more applicable to any lock you buy and rely on (substitute US with your local region): > lack of availability in the US I wouldn't go out of my way to find something like Schlage here, when A…

As a European, most of the products mentioned in the linked article and this discussion are from brands I've never associated with Assa Abloy in the first place.

Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by quitit »

Rather barefaced to squeeze in a sales pitch to an End-of-life notice. "Let us slap you again the future!"

Seems like the right time to switch to an offering that can't be so easily trashed.

Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by Mistletoe »

z3ugma wrote: post #27

Ugh, I'm so incensed. This is the 2nd IOT product in my home getting bricked within 2 months. This is one of the reasons I am working on an enclosure-compatible open-source version of the 2nd gen Nest thermostat over at https://sett.homes/ . It reuses the enclosure, encoder ring, display, and mounts of the Nest but replaces the "thinking" part with an open-source PCB that can interact with Home Assistant. Nest has be…

Thank you for this. Our 2nd gen Nest is our pride and joy and Google has done nothing but trash it continually.

Re: Kevo app shutdown

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Post by quitit »

mahrain wrote: post #85

There really are too few business models available to build sustainable IoT solutions, apart from subscriptions (and only Security companies seem to have figured this out), pyramid schemes (letting your new users pay for maintaining the whole solution), or plain old planned obsolescence (with forced upgrades, like with Smartphones). I'm not sure what models would work, apart from regulators stepping in and mandating…

Folks in corporate thought users would just love a garbage spyware app that reproduces functionality already available under the various home automation platforms - but with extra steps and pointless online requirements.

Then corporate finally realises that years of "user 000128571 locked door" log files are worth precisely f'all to advertisers.

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