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Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

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Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

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Post by _aavaa_ »

mhh__ wrote: post #51
lm28469 wrote: post #5

Two more years guys, just give him two more years, a few more billion, a bit more political power and I promise he'll give you your fancy self driving toy. (Repeat from 2012 ad infinitum)

If it's not your money does it matter? I don't think it's fair to say he doesn't deliver anything e.g. he did cars, rockets, and now AI (the rate X are building out training capacity is genuinely astonishing) at the same time.

Yes it does matter. Money thrown away on his lies is money that isn’t invested on real projects.

Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

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Post by q3k »

thefourthchime wrote: post #69
general1465 wrote: post #50

Tangentially - If you as a European happen to drive on US highways, you will noticed that they are heavily littered with fallen cargo, aluminum ladders, huge amount of shredded tires and occasionally a trailer without a towing car... It has been so bizarre for me to observe this. Nobody is cleaning that?

Yes, people call it in and cops clean it up. We just have a lot of roads and people that poorly packed stuff in trucks

... cops? There's no, like, highway traffic authority with their own maintenance force to take care of this?

Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

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Post by tedggh »

pbasista wrote: post #63

Anecdotal: I am surprised how the basic Tesla autopilot often cannot even read the speed limit signs correctly. In perfect lighting conditions. It just misses a lot of them. And it does not understand the traffic rules enough to know when the speed limit ends. I know that the basic autopilot is a completely different system than the so-called FSD. But equipped with that experience from the basic autopilot, it does no…

I use autopilot for local driving (city - suburbs) and I pay for FSD when on long road trips (>300 miles). You are correct, they are completely different things so one doesn’t correlate to the other one.

Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

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Post by jeffbee »

general1465 wrote: post #50

Tangentially - If you as a European happen to drive on US highways, you will noticed that they are heavily littered with fallen cargo, aluminum ladders, huge amount of shredded tires and occasionally a trailer without a towing car... It has been so bizarre for me to observe this. Nobody is cleaning that?

You might have also noticed that the pavement is terrible. Mostly this comes down to the fact that in Europe the fuel taxes 3-4x ours.

Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

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Post by agildehaus »

tedggh wrote: post #53

I got my first Tesla last year and my first trip with FSD was just after the launch of V13, so I could not compare it to earlier versions. But I was shocked by how good it was. I completed a 800 miles trip with a handful of interventions, most or all of them likely unnecessary. Even with rain the system worked well. I don’t understand how the system was not able to see this obstacle and slow down or change lanes. Did…

It's because anecdotal experience means very little. In ~2021, these vehicles could almost never make it from A to B without a safety-critical intervention.

That they can today doesn't mean they can do the same route 10,000 times without a safety-critical intervention. In fact, public tracking indicates Tesla's numbers are MUCH lower than that.

Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

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Post by jeffbee »

q3k wrote: post #82
thefourthchime wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, people call it in and cops clean it up. We just have a lot of roads and people that poorly packed stuff in trucks

... cops? There's no, like, highway traffic authority with their own maintenance force to take care of this?

A ladder in the road is a legitimate emergency. If you call 911 to report a ladder in the road, they will direct the issue to the relevant agency (which will be the state police, in all likelihood, because they will need to close a lane).

Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

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Post by lawgimenez »

agildehaus wrote: post #30

A friend of mine who loves Tesla watched this video and said "many humans would have hit that". I feel we'll be hearing a lot of that excuse.

Humans would have slowed down at least. After watching it many times, that shadow in front is too large to warrant a concern.

Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

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Post by Scarblac »

coreyh14444 wrote: post #7
HPsquared wrote: post #4

It's so clear, dry, perfect lighting, no traffic or anything. That's shocking.

The debris is pretty close to the color of the road. Seems like a good case for radar/lidar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe it decided it was a harmless plastic bag or something.
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