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Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by billpg »

ozgung wrote: post #41

According to Wikipedia, JavaScript first appeared on December 4th, 1995, as a part of Netscape Navigator. The name was LiveScript in beta versions. Sun Microsystems (acquired by Oracle) made the application for the trademark[1] on December 1st, 1995. The trademark was issued on May 6th, 1997. [1] https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75026640&caseType=SERIAL_...

I they had stuck with LiveScript, we'd be using LSON ("Ell-Son") as a data format.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by linuxftw »

bambax wrote: post #56
ozgung wrote: post #41

According to Wikipedia, JavaScript first appeared on December 4th, 1995, as a part of Netscape Navigator. The name was LiveScript in beta versions. Sun Microsystems (acquired by Oracle) made the application for the trademark[1] on December 1st, 1995. The trademark was issued on May 6th, 1997. [1] https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75026640&caseType=SERIAL_...

I have always wondered why Google didn't buy Sun? They propbably were at the time (and probably still are?) the biggest corporate users of both Java and JavaScript (which, of course, don't share anything beyond the name).

During that era, SPARC servers were the absolute premium units inside the datacenter. That aligned better with Oracle selling servers than Google, who doesn't sell servers, IMO.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by jamesnorden »

nchmy wrote: post #75
r_lee wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine the kind of media attention / clout they'll get for "beating Oracle" etc. They absolutely do get material gains from this, should they succeed. It'd be a much more legitimate effort if they were just asking people to raise funds for e.g. OpenJS to file suit etc.

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The parent poster is just countering the argument that Deno gains nothing from this, no need to strawman.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by SignalM »

I appreciate the thought but this isn’t even a David and Goliath .. this is David’s infant taking on Goliath… Oracle spends more on lawyers than engineers. If this 200k is spent it will be thrown in the garbage. Unless Oracle wants to release it on their own they’ll happily stay in court until every penny Deno has is gone and not think twice about it. Have the team focus on something else.. this isn’t even worth typing up and putting on their website.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by nchmy »

perlgeek wrote: post #83
nemomarx wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we could always use wasm, right?

WASM doesn't have a DOM API, as far as I know.

It does not. It interacts with browser APIs (not just dom) via JavaScript. And it needs to load a big binary first.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by maybewhenthesun »

nchmy wrote: post #79
dev_l1x_be wrote: post #70

> If we don’t win discovery, Oracle locks in ownership of the word “JavaScript.” This is the decisive moment. One more reason to move away from it and finally get some sanity back in webdev.

What alternative do you propose to Javascript for interactive functionality on a web page?

ecmascript?
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