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Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#81

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It's a reason not to use dollars in any form if you are outside of US (and probably inside as well).

Usually the local money is even worst. (Hi from Argentina! Not so bad this year so far...)

sure, but there's something twisted in ripping off e.g. poor africans from the other side of the world...

sure, it couldn't happen without the local warlords, but still...

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#82
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You can be sure that the “anyone, anywhere” claimed is a lie.

Oh absolutely. They even explain it right in the press-release: "users in the U.S. can [...] with international expansion [...] starting later this month".

Of course it will be as far from "anyone" or "anywhere" as possible, because they will start the crypto expansion in a much more restrictive fashion than TradFi.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#84

One of the reasons I don't think crypto can succeed is because people will only use it if it's convenient, which very likely means corporate involvement, which of course ultimately defeats the whole argument of being decentralized.

Without convenience it will not be successful as a common currency. It does not need convenience to succeed in other ways. For example, as a store of value.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#85
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post #29

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In europe, Paypal Sarl is a bank subject to bank regulations

It isn’t subject to the EU statutory deposit insurance, however. Edit: The above means that deposits on your PayPal account aren’t insured, different from regular bank accounts in the EU. This is a frequently emphasized caveat regarding the use of PayPal as a bank account in the EU.

Is that an issue if you don't plan to "store" money in PayPal but only use it for payments?

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#86
Title: PayPal [..] Reimagining How Money Moves to Anyone, Anywhere.

Text: PayPal users in the U.S. can begin [..] today, with international expansion [..] starting later this month.

So immediately out of the box it is exactly NOT for "anyone" and NOT "anywhere".

This is contagious: a couple of years ago Gnosis tried to launch their Gnosis Card[1] on Berlin DappCon with the exact same slogan: "Anyone, anywhere" while only accepting applications from a select group of people living in select EU countries.

I have had discussion with their CEO right there regarding this marketingspeak but he did not seem to grasp what's the problem at all here.

You can't make this shit up.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4_6aOUagY4

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#87

Holding money (or crypto) in PayPal is a terrible idea. They are not a bank, they do not abide by banking regulations. They can lock you out of your account and your money at any time and leave you going in circles with their offshore support. Yes, they are somewhat of a necessary evil if you do any online peer-to-peer buying/selling, since they are the only money transfer service that provides some level of "buyer p…

I assume you can't use Crypto instead of the bank account link, you probably require both. Otherwise this might have some use as another blast radius reducer for Paypal's antics.

I switched to a hardly used checking account for paypal after they held $20 hostage for a couple months after selling an old video card on ebay. I'd heard some one say their bank account had become frozen by paypal during a dispute and that event reminded me of it enough to get some separation.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#88

Holding money (or crypto) in PayPal is a terrible idea. They are not a bank, they do not abide by banking regulations. They can lock you out of your account and your money at any time and leave you going in circles with their offshore support. Yes, they are somewhat of a necessary evil if you do any online peer-to-peer buying/selling, since they are the only money transfer service that provides some level of "buyer p…

What's the problem with debit cards?

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#89
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn’t subject to the EU statutory deposit insurance, however. Edit: The above means that deposits on your PayPal account aren’t insured, different from regular bank accounts in the EU. This is a frequently emphasized caveat regarding the use of PayPal as a bank account in the EU.

Is that an issue if you don't plan to "store" money in PayPal but only use it for payments?

In that case it isn’t, but this thread is specifically about holding money in PayPal: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45250598

My point is that one doesn’t get all the protections normally taken for granted for EU bank accounts.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#90
post #43

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Not anymore than a USD deposit account. Just with extra steps.

> Not anymore than a USD deposit account These typically pay interest. (Or have retail servicing costs attached.)

Oh yeah, if you get a USD savings account from major nationwide banks you'll be getting exciting interest rates of up to 0.02% [1], assuming you have a 'relationship bonus'. BofA gets up to 0.04% [2], with the right tiers.

[1] https://www.chase.com/personal/savings/interest-savings/inte...

[2] https://www.bankofamerica.com/deposits/savings/savings-accou...

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