Proton Mail suspended journalist accounts at request of cybersecurity agency

Post by jwrallie » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 2:31 AM UTC

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #50

nsagent wrote: post #18

I've need a paying subscriber to Proton since 2018, but I recently canceled my subscription (which ends in November). I just got fed up with the constant bugginess and jankiness of their offerings. Any suggestions for mail hosting and VPN? I hear good things about Fastmail and mailbox.org (I see they very recently rebranded to just mailbox and revamped their offering). Also, I've been a heavy user of the SimpleLogin…

Fastmail is fine. It's somewhat limited in its UX, but technically speaking, everything works, and it's snappy. Very few outages. I really like their integrations with calendars, contacts, and mail for 3rd party sites/services. Not a ton of features or deals re: custom domains or multiple users, but it's fine if it's just for yourself. edit They literally -JUST- turned on Offline support for their app and web interfa…

Post by Yiin » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 2:37 AM UTC

overfeed wrote: post #81

fivefives55555 wrote: post #9

I've been following this on X/Twitter and I think one of the most egregious things that's important to point out is that folks from Phrack reached out to Proton in private multiple times, and Proton ghosted them. Proton only engaged with them and then reinstated the accounts after Phrack went public and their X/Twitter post went viral. It also looks like one of the writers filed an appeal with Proton and Proton denie…

I'll go out on a limb and say it: it's an American cybersecurity agency. Proton's CEO/Proton[1] loves the current US admin. I wouldn't be surprised if they comply now and ask questions later, if at all. 1. According to the now-deleted Reddit comment from the official Proton account glazing Republicans, so I assume they were speaking on behalf of all of Proton. https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-…

Post by 8cvor6j844qw_d6 » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 2:40 AM UTC

fn-mote wrote: post #79

jackstraw42 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well, you can't get the same stuff done that the folks with influence can. like they're working with a better toolbox.

Which is all cool until Google rug-pulls your influence and you’re back to zero… in which case it doesn’t sound like a tool anymore. Maybe a tool with DRM embedded would be an appropriate analogy?

Post by nerpderp82 » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 2:53 AM UTC

overfeed wrote: post #81

fivefives55555 wrote: post #9

I've been following this on X/Twitter and I think one of the most egregious things that's important to point out is that folks from Phrack reached out to Proton in private multiple times, and Proton ghosted them. Proton only engaged with them and then reinstated the accounts after Phrack went public and their X/Twitter post went viral. It also looks like one of the writers filed an appeal with Proton and Proton denie…

I'll go out on a limb and say it: it's an American cybersecurity agency. Proton's CEO/Proton[1] loves the current US admin. I wouldn't be surprised if they comply now and ask questions later, if at all. 1. According to the now-deleted Reddit comment from the official Proton account glazing Republicans, so I assume they were speaking on behalf of all of Proton. https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-…

Post by abnercoimbre » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 3:00 AM UTC

drnick1 wrote: post #69

And this is why I host my own email server, even if I am not a journalist investigating governments or anything of the sort. It's a matter of control over my computing.