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Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by ufmace »

mdaniel wrote: post #50
testdelacc1 wrote: post #47

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Disclaimer: Not a Kagi user. Unlikely to use it. I just don’t understand people who get so upset that someone might like something enough to talk about liking it. So upset that they won’t ever try the thing. Like … ok I guess? You do you. It’s just a strange way to make decisions. At least this is just a consumer product. Worse is when people here say they make technical decisions using the same process. They’d black…

I get the impression it's the volume of the folks who sing its praises. There was a web3 crowd for a while, Bitwarden champions would show up to any mention of a password manager, and (ahem) some AI champions can be over the top In all of these cases, a reasonable counterpoint is that if it were that applicable for all audiences, one wouldn't need to sing its praises, it would sing its own praises

It sings its own praises... how exactly? Maybe by a bunch of happy users talking about how they like it and it's a better solution to the problem that the thread or article is about without being explicitly paid? Which is exactly what's happening here and some people are complaining about it?

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by moduspol »

luizfelberti wrote: post #39

I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…

Is the common crawl usable for something like this?

https://commoncrawl.org

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by 6510 »

luizfelberti wrote: post #39

I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…

The crawl seems hard but the difference between having something and not having it is is very obvious. Ordering the results is not. What should go on page 200 and do those results still count as having them?

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by Poomba »

wordpad wrote: post #70
luizfelberti wrote: post #39

I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…

Why can't crawling be crowd sourced? It would solve ip rotation and spread the load

That’s how residential proxies work, in a perverse way

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by 6510 »

wordpad wrote: post #70
luizfelberti wrote: post #39

I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…

Why can't crawling be crowd sourced? It would solve ip rotation and spread the load

https://yacy.net

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by apetresc »

saalweachter wrote: post #79
_fat_santa wrote: post #72

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Not for a CPU but earlier this year I bought a Thinkpad workstation off eBay for $500. It's a machine from 2020 and when it was new cost $5,700. I see this for pretty much all hardware out on eBay, just go back 5 years and watch the price fall 10x.

Has eBay fixed their "and then they ship you a box of rocks" problem? I feel like there was a five year span where everyone I talked to said buying or selling electronics on eBay was a nightmare, so I'm a little curious if I need to re-evaluate my priors.

My understanding is that eBay sides with the buyer on all disputes, to the point of ridiculousness. So you should be fine.

The real issue is being a seller and solving the "and then the customer claims I shipped them a box of rocks" problem.

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by throwaway290 »

alexjplant wrote: post #52
the_third_wave wrote: post #34

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I understand skepticism in the age of LLM-generated content and CAPTCHA-solving bots. What I don't understand is why people choose such weird hills to die on and think that posting about it will accomplish anything. Do you think people will read your comment and go "gee, I was going to use Kagi but now I won't because this random person has a bad feeling about a series of comments they remember seeing"? I signed up f…

no one else would pay for search. people on HN is probably 90% of their total possible market.

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by buildbot »

saalweachter wrote: post #79
_fat_santa wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for a CPU but earlier this year I bought a Thinkpad workstation off eBay for $500. It's a machine from 2020 and when it was new cost $5,700. I see this for pretty much all hardware out on eBay, just go back 5 years and watch the price fall 10x.

Has eBay fixed their "and then they ship you a box of rocks" problem? I feel like there was a five year span where everyone I talked to said buying or selling electronics on eBay was a nightmare, so I'm a little curious if I need to re-evaluate my priors.

Yes, it’s extremely rare to be stuck with a broken/wrong/missing item as a buyer on eBay. Selling is quite risky in some ways because eBay will nearly always side with a buyer. Every missing or broken thing I have purchased has been refunded or replaced. On the other hand, 3 things I have sold were claimed to not arrive. The only case where eBay decided in my favor was when the buyer had signed for the package in a literal USPS office :)

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by buildbot »

apetresc wrote: post #86
saalweachter wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has eBay fixed their "and then they ship you a box of rocks" problem? I feel like there was a five year span where everyone I talked to said buying or selling electronics on eBay was a nightmare, so I'm a little curious if I need to re-evaluate my priors.

My understanding is that eBay sides with the buyer on all disputes, to the point of ridiculousness. So you should be fine. The real issue is being a seller and solving the "and then the customer claims I shipped them a box of rocks" problem.

Yep selling is way more risky. Ebay might be the most safe (refund wise) marketplace for buyers… I have more trouble with amazon.

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Post by giancarlostoro »

moduspol wrote: post #82
luizfelberti wrote: post #39

I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…

Is the common crawl usable for something like this? https://commoncrawl.org

Most likely it is, the issue then becomes being able to store and afford the storage for all the files.
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