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Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by njaremko »

amilios wrote: post #44
AlexandrB wrote: post #13

Boo, hiss. No more physical SIM support in Canada. I tried to go eSim only, but moving an eSim from one phone to another is a huge PITA and something I do regularly for travel.

This is especially surprising to me given several providers still only support physical SIM or weird half-support (e.g. Fizz, that I'm with, allows you to open a new line with eSIM but not transfer an existing line from physical to eSIM).

They recently fixed this. My friend switched from Fido to eSIM Fizz yesterday, and kept their existing line

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by 7e »

johncalvinyoung wrote: post #11

The lack of a black iPhone 17 Pro... has me dumbfounded. I might skip this year. I'm really happy with the camera features, but there's less differentiation between base iPhone 17 and 17 Pro this go-round. Probably enough for me to still get the Pro, but the iPhone 17 is looking like a pretty cool option this year.

They're removing black to force people to either upgrade, or make it painfully obvious to their peers that they're using an old phone. That's what you do when there is nothing new in your phone this year. Status signaling and fashion.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by amilios »

njaremko wrote: post #81
amilios wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is especially surprising to me given several providers still only support physical SIM or weird half-support (e.g. Fizz, that I'm with, allows you to open a new line with eSIM but not transfer an existing line from physical to eSIM).

They recently fixed this. My friend switched from Fido to eSIM Fizz yesterday, and kept their existing line

If you are an existing Fizz customer with a physical SIM, is there a pathway to switching to eSIM now? Because there wasn't for a very long time.

EDIT: Huh you're right! It's now possible. Groovy!

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by strongpigeon »

voisin wrote: post #80
strongpigeon wrote: post #52

Kind of surprised by how ugly the pro looks. I can deal with wide the "plateau", but that cutout looks bad. If I were to buy one it'd be the first phone I keep in a case. See: https://x.com/neilcybart/status/1965502456886100389

What is the cutout for? Just aesthetics?

I think it's because of the wireless charging. I.e.: as to not have aluminium in from of the MagSafe coil

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by tomduncalf »

shantara wrote: post #38

Looks like “8x” zoom on the new Pro model is actually 4x optical plus extra 2x by pixel binning on the 48MP sensor, compared with 5x optical on the last year’s model.

It is, but I don’t think this a bad offering - up until recently all iPhone cameras were 12mp, so you still get “good enough to print” quality. I guess it’s a bit of marketing speak but I don’t mind - to me it seems they made good choices on the lenses this year. 5x always seemed a bit too much without something in between but hopefully 4x is a decent compromise while still enabling “8x” (which I suspect is important for marketing and honestly will be quite fun)

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by TiredOfLife »

shantara wrote: post #60
msie wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's right. One of the captions read 8x 12MP.

The specs page on Apple website just lists zoom factors of 1x, 2x, 4x and 8x without specifying the difference, which is misleading

Apple are masters of misleading marketing.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by AaronAPU »

I regret “upgrading” from iPhone 12 to 16. Ended up spending over $1k on a separate camera because the iPhone 16’s is so much worse it ruined my favorite hobby of taking scenery photos while cycling.

Think I’m done with Apple phones after that one.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by xela79 »

oulipo2 wrote: post #53
olex wrote: post #45

I get a new iPhone as a work phone bi-yearly, and get to pick the model, with co-pay for anything above the most basic one (currently 16E). In a month or so, it'll be that time again. Last time I went with the non-Pro option was 6 years ago with the 11. Back then I regretted it, it was a clear downgrade from my previous iPhone X (which I consider the first "Pro" iPhone) - largely because of the screen, 11's LCD reall…

It's not because your work gives you the opportunity to get a new iPhone that you *need* to get one... you can also downscale the consumerism, the planet is better that way

It's not because the site gives you a reply button that you need to press it... you can also downscale the server & energy usage, the "planet" is better that way

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by AlexandrB »

eptcyka wrote: post #22
AlexandrB wrote: post #13

Boo, hiss. No more physical SIM support in Canada. I tried to go eSim only, but moving an eSim from one phone to another is a huge PITA and something I do regularly for travel.

Moving? I can register the same sim to multiple phones.

Canadian carriers generally suck. Mine limits the ability to move an eSim between phones. The fact that this is even possible tells me that eSims are not as consumer friendly as traditional SIM cards.
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