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Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by hnlmorg »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #76
AndrewDavis wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> WSL 1 was relatively innovative, integrating Linux application compatibility into the Windows operating system itself Both FreeBSD and Illumos were running Linux applications (at various levels of compatibility) many years prior to wsl v1. Joyent even went as far as re-implementing the Docker api to allow running OCI images natively in LX zones. Hence, it wasn't even that novel of an idea.

Achieving it on Windows was fairly novel, though: we hadn't had something like that since the XP days.

Even that’s not true. cygwin, mingw, and others have been around for decades.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

hnlmorg wrote: post #81
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Achieving it on Windows was fairly novel, though: we hadn't had something like that since the XP days.

Even that’s not true. cygwin, mingw, and others have been around for decades.

Those are runtime environments provided by DLLs (requiring recompilation), not Wine-like translation layers. WSL 1 was something special, and it says something that Microsoft ditched it in favour of "we've invented virtual machines for the very first time!!!".

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by nickjj »

sixtyj wrote: post #9
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #3

I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper fro…

This. The worst death is from fright. So let’s keep calm. Because Win 10 will work after October 2025.

I wonder if MS will extend the deadline, especially since there's unofficial tools bypassing their restrictions.

I remember last year when they announced removing a major MS Teams connector around webhook integrations.

In July 2024 they said in August 2024 this feature would be disabled for new apps and then in October 2024 all integrations would stop working. This would effectively break a ton of 3rd party integrations. Think how crazy that is considering their top market is enterprise companies being sold on Teams through O365 licenses.

For context, this would be the equivalent of Slack saying they are going to remove all OAuth / webhook integrations and replace it with something else when "something else" wasn't even properly documented with practically no notice.

A few weeks after that announcement MS decided to extend that deadline to December 2025. I don't know the current state of things since I no longer work at the place using Teams.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by tempodox »

esperent wrote: post #46
999900000999 wrote: post #40

Ubuntu. Fedora. Arch. Open Suse . Pick one, stop trying to make Windows look like a decent os. My local Windows install just gave up. I'm very close to trying Windows 11 in a VM on top of Fedora or whatever, can't really do that on my 16gb ram value laptop though. If Maschine offered official Linux support, that's what I make music with, I'd be 100% Windows free.

A few months ago I switched from Windows 11 to Ubuntu on my laptop. Coming from a decade of experience running servers with various flavors of Linux it's not much of a learning curve for me. And look, I love Ubuntu. I'm sticking with it (although kinda wish I'd been less safe and chosen Fedora or OpenSuse). But, to be honest, I've had, and continue to have, a ton of problems related to hardware. Problems waking from…

Maybe the year 2100 will finally be the year of the Linux desktop.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by hnlmorg »

AndrewDavis wrote: post #61
wtallis wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> answered complaints about Windows being bad for development by embedding an OS that is good for development and calling that an innovation Well, they actually did it twice in recent history: WSL 1 was relatively innovative, integrating Linux application compatibility into the Windows operating system itself. But that turned out to still be bad for development because it meant Linux software was now subjected to the…

> WSL 1 was relatively innovative, integrating Linux application compatibility into the Windows operating system itself Both FreeBSD and Illumos were running Linux applications (at various levels of compatibility) many years prior to wsl v1. Joyent even went as far as re-implementing the Docker api to allow running OCI images natively in LX zones. Hence, it wasn't even that novel of an idea.

That’s arguably an easy task though because there is more commonality due to POSIX.

But there are plenty of examples of compatibility layers like this throughout computing history. WINE, cygwin, Linux compat, etc.

Microsoft even went down this road already in the 80s with Xenix before abandoning the idea of Unix.

The only novel part of WSL was the marketing folks

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by cheschire »

Krasnol wrote: post #66
999900000999 wrote: post #40

Ubuntu. Fedora. Arch. Open Suse . Pick one, stop trying to make Windows look like a decent os. My local Windows install just gave up. I'm very close to trying Windows 11 in a VM on top of Fedora or whatever, can't really do that on my 16gb ram value laptop though. If Maschine offered official Linux support, that's what I make music with, I'd be 100% Windows free.

I don't understand this comments on forums like this one. Who do you think you are addressing with this? People here are either on Apple, already on some other X or do use Windows because they have to. Most of the rest of the people on this planet won't use either of your recommendations because they have no idea how to work this, how to fix errors, how to find programs they need, jump over compatibility issues with…

You seem to be under the misconception that everyone is at the same point in their life journey as you are.

Plenty of people here on this site are right on the edge of a major change in operating system and benefit from that slight peer pressure to go ahead and make that change.

What is the point of your comment? Just use the downvote button.

Edit: see? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45155975

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by hnlmorg »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #82
hnlmorg wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even that’s not true. cygwin, mingw, and others have been around for decades.

Those are runtime environments provided by DLLs (requiring recompilation), not Wine-like translation layers. WSL 1 was something special, and it says something that Microsoft ditched it in favour of "we've invented virtual machines for the very first time!!!".

It’s been a while since I’ve played with Cygwin and I do recall there were a lot of stuff compiled for Windows, but couldn’t it also run Linux software run natively too?

Admittedly back then I was working for a place that mainly developed in Perl, so I didn’t port a whole lot of ELFs across. So maybe I’m misremembering

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

microtonal wrote: post #36
PeterStuer wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They wont as it would be admitting their 'normal' offering is anti-consumer.

Also, this is also the case with ad-disabling subscriptions, the people who have the disposable income to buy non-ad versions are the most interesting to a lot of advertisers.

While I agree, when was the last time you bought something because you saw it advertised in Windows?

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by devilbunny »

vbezhenar wrote: post #67
esperent wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few months ago I switched from Windows 11 to Ubuntu on my laptop. Coming from a decade of experience running servers with various flavors of Linux it's not much of a learning curve for me. And look, I love Ubuntu. I'm sticking with it (although kinda wish I'd been less safe and chosen Fedora or OpenSuse). But, to be honest, I've had, and continue to have, a ton of problems related to hardware. Problems waking from…

Just to present my anecdote, I'm using Lenovo Thinkpad Gen 4 Intel with Arch Linux and I don't have a single issue with hardware. Literally everything works. Suspend works, my laptop connected to the display via USB-C cable which also delivers power to laptop. My laptop stays with closed lid (clamshell mode). Sony BLE headphones work. Even fingerprint sensor worked when I tried it (but I don't use it, as I'm working…

I don’t actually use Linux on my Thinkpad, but aren’t they considered the best Linux-friendly laptops out there?

Non-developer, don’t need Linux but sometimes need a Windows machine and this is it.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

dijit wrote: post #75
qwezxcrty wrote: post #72

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I just searched and it appears that contrary to what I thought, it is possible to individually acquire Windows 11 Enterprise (IoT or non-IoT) LTSC licenses from some redistributors. The price varies a lot from suprisingly cheap ($7.7, is buykeysoft.com legit?) to a bit expensive but acceptable (~200 CHF). I'll definitely use these when I'm setting up my new desktop in the future.

The issue I tend to have with redistributors is that ultimately: it might not end up being a valid license. What's the difference between outright piracy and buying an invalid (but functioning) CD key? Legally: nothing. If a key is minted to be used only in certain areas or for certain purposes (healthcare, education) and it's sold to me- I don't have a right to use it. That's the really annoying thing about these CD…

I was thinking a lot about it as I don't want to put anything illegal on my computer. OTOH, the only way to buy an older version (in my case, Office 2016 for Mac) is to use a reseller. I try to do a research, I try to find a reputable one, I receive an invoice, I install and active the software, it works, but in the end it's as you say - there is no certainty at all.

But in the end I'm fine with that. First, the vendor is no longer selling this product, second, there is only that much one can do.

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