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Re: I miss using em dashes

#81

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> I'm not sure why people let others change them. I keep punctuating like it's the 20th Century. In the 20th century, there were two spaces after an end of sentence period. (I still do that.)

When I was growing up (90s), we were taught that either one or two spaces was acceptable practice.

I was thought two spaces was for fixed width (typewriters), whereas one space was for word processors with proportional typesetting.

Re: I miss using em dashes

#82
post #19

I wouldn't worry about it. A year ago the red flag du jour was "delve"; this year it's em dashes; next year it'll be something else. In any case, this is a very online topic that I assume only a vocal minority are hung up on in the first place. If you picked a random person off the street and asked for their thoughts on em dashes, you'd probably get a blank stare. Eventually, as models and their users both improve, w…

Your opinion is not necessarily one I agree or disagree with, but I feel that you've dismissed the entire article due to one part of it. I think there is a very interesting discussion to be had over how LLMs are actively changing the way we write, or even speak.

Just to clarify, I didn't dismiss the article. I'm agreeing with one of the author's points that we shouldn't dumb down our writing to please a vocal minority.

Re: I miss using em dashes

#85
post #70

People will soon start accepting imperfections as a sign of genuine and authentic in any work that was done, and typos/mistakes as some sort of quick indicator that it was human made. Refreshing to be honest, finally people will embrace the fact that we are humans and we are supposed to do mistakes, instead of the tiring, mentally exhausting, perfectionist behavior. I remember seeing here in HN a company called ‘good…

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Re: I miss using em dashes

#86
Given the chaos currently infecting the world, overuse of em dashes--or any use for that matter--is the last thing a rational being should worry over.

Other than splitting infinitives and ending sentences with a preposition, of course. They are a weighty burden no soul should have to ever put up with.

Re: I miss using em dashes

#87
post #61
post #19

I wouldn't worry about it. A year ago the red flag du jour was "delve"; this year it's em dashes; next year it'll be something else. In any case, this is a very online topic that I assume only a vocal minority are hung up on in the first place. If you picked a random person off the street and asked for their thoughts on em dashes, you'd probably get a blank stare. Eventually, as models and their users both improve, w…

>If you picked a random person off the street and asked for their thoughts on em dashes, you'd probably get a blank stare. But the people you will reach online will be online, and not some random person-off-the-street. The average person on the street will give the same blank stare on the topic of compilers, regular expressions, black-holes, or robotics, but I still want to read about those topics. And if I want an L…

Approximately everyone is online. What percentage of those people do you think are even familiar with the meme that em dashes == LLM assistance, much less feel strongly enough to complain or attack you over your punctuation choices?

Re: I miss using em dashes

#88

No offense to any em-dash lovers, but I think an overuse of em-dashes indicates that your writing is probably slop, just not AI slop, human slop. In a sense, there is a kind of slop that relies on em-dashes to glue things together - usually in a cliche way, learned from lazy journalists copy-pasting from their last article to add a bit of spice to their writing - and AI just copied it. (On the other hand, maybe it's…

I agree with this too, I have read a lot of academic stuff with - em dashes and it reads like the author doesn't know how to write and is just translating spoken word to text.

When you are talking, an aside can make a lot of sense because you are thinking and speaking in real time. When you write you have the luxury of time to reformulate your words more precisely. Em dashes are best kept for prose that mimics speech rather than constructing logical text.

It's no coincidence that em dashes are rare in legal texts because they are too imprecise. Where as semicolons are extremely common in legal texts.

The S in semicolon stands for S-Tier. Maybe the E in em dash stands for E-Tier?

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Re: I miss using em dashes

#89
post #28
post #19

I wouldn't worry about it. A year ago the red flag du jour was "delve"; this year it's em dashes; next year it'll be something else. In any case, this is a very online topic that I assume only a vocal minority are hung up on in the first place. If you picked a random person off the street and asked for their thoughts on em dashes, you'd probably get a blank stare. Eventually, as models and their users both improve, w…

100%. I use em-dashes a decent amount and plan to continue. If someone wants to incorrectly assume it was AI writing so be it.

Certainly! I’m right there with you.
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