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Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Is that true? Do models get rebuilt from scratch each time or do they get iterated on?

I believe the big models currently get built from scratch (with random starting weights). That wasn't my point though. I meant a model created once, might be used for a very long time. Maybe they even release the weights at one point ("open source").

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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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post #52

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Two weeks left in the sub to figure it out, but I'm not yet sure. I was never all in on all the tooling, I mostly used it as smart search (e.g. ImageMagick incantations) and for trivial scripting that I couldn't be bothered writing myself, so I might just stick to whatever comes with Kagi, see if that doesn't cover me.

How does Kagi (claim that they) enforce privacy rights on the major LLM providers? Have they negotiated a special contract? I'm looking at > "When you use the Assistant by Kagi, your data is never used to train AI models (not by us or by the LLM providers), and no account information is shared with the LLM providers. By default, threads are deleted after 24 hours of inactivity. This behavior can be adjusted in the se…

There is an option to opt out right? So I assume they just make sure to always opt out.

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post #60

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Settings > Privacy > Privacy Settings

i don't see any setting related to this? just: Export data Shared chats Location metadata Review and update terms and conditions I'm in the EU, maybe that's helping me?

Have you clicked "Review and update terms and conditions"?

It's part of the update

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How does Kagi (claim that they) enforce privacy rights on the major LLM providers? Have they negotiated a special contract? I'm looking at > "When you use the Assistant by Kagi, your data is never used to train AI models (not by us or by the LLM providers), and no account information is shared with the LLM providers. By default, threads are deleted after 24 hours of inactivity. This behavior can be adjusted in the se…

There is an option to opt out right? So I assume they just make sure to always opt out.

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Trusting companies more than the government always feels strange. It's something I can't grasp.

The government has the direct power to imprison me or seize my property if cross them. It seems strange to not be able to grasp the difference in kind here.

What happens if your Google account is locked out because you shared your son's pictures to his M.D. because of an ongoing treatment?

What happens the same company locks all your book drafts because an algorithm deemed that you're plotting something against someone?

Both are real events, BTW.

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Am I the only one who finds the branding and privacy policies around these AI services (possibly deliberately) confusing?

For example Anthropic have an Anthropic Console that they appear to consider quite distinct from Claude.ai. Do these share a privacy policy and related settings? How do either of these fit in with the named plans like Pro and Max? What are you actually paying for when you give them money for the various different things they charge for? Is all API use under their Commercial Terms even if it's a personal account that is otherwise under the Consumer Terms? Why isn't all of this obvious and transparent to users?

OpenAI don't seem to be any better. I only just learned from this HN discussion that they train on personal account conversations. As someone privacy-conscious who has used ChatGPT - even if only a few times for experiments - I find the fact that this wasn't very clearly stated up front to be extremely disturbing. If I'd known about it I would certainly have switched off the relevant setting immediately.

I get that these organisations have form for training on whatever they can get their hands on whether dubiously legal or not. But training on users' personal conversations or code feels like something that should require a very clear and explicit opt-in. In fact I don't see how they can legally not have that first in places like the EU and UK that have significant data protection legislation.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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post #78

Someone's hallucination riddled Perplexity search should not be the source for this: https://www.anthropic.com/news/updates-to-our-consumer-terms https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45053806

The perplexity search seemed pretty solid to me. What hallucinations did you see?

If there's a primary source like the one I just shared and you link me to an AI summary of 28 sources, I'm treating the entire package as garbage.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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I think there is amazing signal inside the chat logs. Every idea or decision taken can be analyzed in hindsight 20 messages later, or days later. Eventually a feedback signal or outcome lands back in the chat logs. That is real world idea validation. Considering the hundreds of millions of users and their diverse tasks that collect across time - this is probably the most efficient way to improve AI. I coined it the h…

Your ideas for other users.
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