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Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by pjerem »

4ggr0 wrote: post #31
ahartmetz wrote: post #18

Install "Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC" if you don't mind buying grey market keys. Less crapware, more mature and less enshittified than 11, and security fixes until 2032. I don't want to endorse Windows at all (use Linux if you can!). But maybe you need it to occasionally test something or whatever.

Even though I professionally work with Linux I still don't trust it enough for gaming. I know that Steam does great things with Proton, my issue is that I'm not the type of gamer who constantly plays the same game - Play a game for how long the story or my interests lasts, then switch to the next game. And after a whole day of debugging and hair pulling at work I just don't feel like then also debugging why a game is…

FWIW : I own 262 games on my steam library, played most of them at least once. I had no issue with any single game.

I don't play multiplayer games so I'm not concerned by anti cheats though.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by cesarb »

russfink wrote: post #24
Zr01 wrote: post #16

That's why I don't install updates, unless and until they've been proven not to break things. I miss the old days when software was expected to work out of the box and updates, on the rare occasions when they appeared, were actually useful.

I hope you are speaking with tongue in cheek. Security is the main reason to keep current with updates. They address various “CVE” reports and go beyond to patch things not reported by CVEs.

> Security is the main reason to keep current with updates.

For plenty of users, their only exposed attack surface is the web browser and AV codecs. Updates outside of that make no security difference for them.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by cesarb »

qwertox wrote: post #49

I'm wondering if I should defer my full system backup on the 1st of September, as the resulting file is 300+ GB. I had a BSOD last week, 0x0000012b (FAULTY_HARDWARE_CORRUPTED_PAGE), which I've never had, and was hoping it isn't related to this update.

You might want to run memtest86+ (or the built-in equivalent from some OEMs like Dell), in my experience memory sticks sometimes go bad after being in use for a while.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by plipt »

BoredPositron wrote: post #67
johanvts wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try bazzite OS, the only issue I have had was to select the proton build of CS, everything else works out of the box. Except for games that need anti-cheat… So I still ended up with a windows partition.

I guess he wants to use his general computing device as a general computing device and not as a console.

Maybe you know this but Bazzite works perfectly well as a standard Linux desktop operating system. It comes with a non-gaming desktop environment and can be setup to boot directly into that desktop environment. It just defaults to the steam gaming interface.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by joecool1029 »

ahartmetz wrote: post #18

Install "Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC" if you don't mind buying grey market keys. Less crapware, more mature and less enshittified than 11, and security fixes until 2032. I don't want to endorse Windows at all (use Linux if you can!). But maybe you need it to occasionally test something or whatever.

Weirdly enough I had one of those 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC systems kill a SSD in the past month, bad blocks. Intel 520 180GB. Probably coincidence but I figured I'd mention since this was also a system with a large OST file in use.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by BoredPositron »

plipt wrote: post #84
BoredPositron wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess he wants to use his general computing device as a general computing device and not as a console.

Maybe you know this but Bazzite works perfectly well as a standard Linux desktop operating system. It comes with a non-gaming desktop environment and can be setup to boot directly into that desktop environment. It just defaults to the steam gaming interface.

It's an immutable distribution...

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by lloydatkinson »

bayindirh wrote: post #17
lxgr wrote: post #7

"I installed a Windows update and my SSD died afterwards" doesn't seem like news, given that almost all Windows users periodically install Windows updates and SSDs sometimes fail.

Runaway processes are big problems for SSD life. A runaway file indexer, or a tool which re-writes large chunks of data can consume the TBW limit of an SSD pretty fast if it's left unchecked for long.

I seem to remember Spotify causing big problems because of this

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by pessimizer »

Tomorrow, somebody will still explain to you like you're a child that Linux has hardware incompatibilities (on the computer they bought last week the day it came out), and is just not ready for prime time.

They want to stick with Windows because it's safe and just works.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by adithyassekhar »

gruez wrote: post #70
dark-star wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no, the FTL is still in the SSD unless it's a host-managed SSD which is also operating in host-managed mode, which none of the articles have mentioned to be related to the issue

No, some SSDs use host memory buffer (HMB) to cache FTL tables. If the FTL cache gets corrupted, and that causes critical data to be overwritten, that could brick the SSD. For instance, if the FTL table was corrupted in such a way where a page for a random file is mapped to the page for the SSD's FTL (or other critical data), and the OS/user tries to write to that random file.

Isn't that a huge flaw?
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