I built my ideal laptop... 4TB storage, the 5070, all the mods I would need, and it comes to $4000+ :(
My ASUS ROG Strix cost me $1500 back when the 3080's were new and has a 3080. Have prices risen that much?
Framework Laptop 16
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#82I'm glad the AMD GPU option still exists, I don't have great experience with NVIDIA on Linux. The rest of the upgrades, like the new top cover and keyboard, are very welcome
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve never missed having buttons on the macbook trackpad lol How are they slower/impossible?
Problem is none of the trackpad on PC are as good as the Apple trackpad
... it's a software problem afaik. The trackpad may be slightly better quality, but it's the drivers and the OS integration that make even some games playable without a mouse on Mac OS.
Don't think any one x86 laptop manufacturer can fix it.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#84Will Framework ever ship high-end laptops, or is the niche always going to be low-to-mid spec repairable? The specification targets on them are always chronically low.
It would be nice to see a 5070 Ti, 5080, or even Quadro-grade RTX 5000 ADA for graphics-oriented workloads.
I'm not sure the type-c (200-230w) would be sufficient to run these cards at their reccomended TGP (150w) + CPU (50w) + charge - not that most 16" productivity-oriented notebooks do (70-115W).
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#85As an owner of the original FW16, I'm really happy with this update! I hope that there's some news on an external case for old mainboards.
yea, i am wondering about that too
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops. Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option ?
I’ve never missed having buttons on the macbook trackpad lol How are they slower/impossible?
I've missed them every time I've been in the unfortunate position of dealing with someone else's macOS system. It's all a matter of what you're accustomed to.
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#87Kinda wish you guys didn't have an Nvidia product at all. It's only really useful for Windows users, but openly hostile and offensive to Linux desktop users.
NVIDIA's stance on Linux aside, from a practical point of view the one thing I've had the most issues with in practice while using them together was the abomination that is Optimus. Considering they mention a mux for outputting directly to the display, it sounds like this might be a bit less of a pain to get working since it sounds like you should be able to just have one GPU active at a time (instead of both of them having to work together).
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#88The idea of Framework laptops sounds great! But I’m wondering: has anyone done an economic analysis comparing buying a Framework laptop a few years ago and gradually upgrading it, versus buying a similar popular brand laptop and just upgrading by getting a new model? I’m not trolling, I’m genuinely considering Framework as my next laptop.
I have a 1st gen Framework 13, Intel 11th gen CPU, running Ubuntu 24. It had a faulty design around the BIOS battery on the motherboard that I had to fix, and do some soldering on[1]. It's remarkable because they didn't say "Send the laptop in and we'll fix the design defect" they said, "First take a photo of the inside of the laptop to verify the serial number, then place an order, then do the repair yourself." This…
> then do the repair yourself
This is awesome though, and exactly the sort of thing one buys a Framework for.
> the laptop's battery life is not good
Mine is great, I share a single USB-C cord among all my laptops (of which I have despairingly too many) and I often use my Framework all day while forgetting it's not plugged in. (Fedora, if the OS matters.)
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops. Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option ?
Thinkpads still have buttons. I don't ever use the trackpad, just the nub and buttons.
I use the touchpad together with the buttons, on my ThinkPad, and rarely use the stick.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another consideration that has really come true for me is repairs - I accidentally spilled a bottle of gin over my framework and was able to only replace the main board for under half the cost of a brand new machine. I'm very happy with my framework!
We can admire Framework's commitment to repairable hardware without pretending that it's unique. I spilled my drink of choice on my Alienware X17 and was able to replace the keyboard for $100 from AliExpress armed only with a Phillips head.
Replacing the mainboard is not quite the same thing as replacing the keyboard.