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4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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step 6: Block non-compliant DNS servers

Step 7: Camera AI that can catch the people scribbling “Sci-Hub is 190.115.31.218” on a bathroom wall.

Does that even work anymore? I thought plain IP addresses were a thing of the past ever since we started doing virtual hosts 25 years ago. I just get a 503 when I use the address you posted...

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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For you - not for 99% of the public.

https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls The iOS instructions are the most onerous (IMO) but still easy enough to follow. It's 15 minutes of fumbling around for the non-technical person, then they're protected. (Though, as others have pointed out, this is probably moot. The blocking is more effectively done by ISPs.)

>It's 15 minutes of fumbling around for the non-technical person, then they're protected.

You and I have very different ideas of what "non-technical" means. If it involves anything beyond pressing "download" on the app store, it's out of reach of the vast majority of users.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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I wouldn't be so sure it's an ideological stand. 4chan got hacked a while back because they were running a totally outdated software stack. It's been pretty much abandoned by its owner hiromoot. If they aren't going to update the site for basic maintainance, they definitely aren't going to implement all this chat control/ age verification bullcrap. I suppose a resistance to change is good when your competitors are bu…

> I wouldn't be so sure it's an ideological stand.... they definitely aren't going to implement all this chat control/ age verification bullcrap.

I read this as a plain contradiction.

> they were running a totally outdated software stack.

And this as a convenient pretense.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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The tariff was oppressive in large part because the colonies didn't have representation in Parliament and were allowed limited (and decreasing) local governance. The Stamp, Townshend and Intolerable Acts were a whole lot more than just "we don't wanna pay taxes".

I don't feel represented on the national or international stage AT ALL. Maybe I'll stop paying mine.

What you "feel" is irrelevant though? You have the option of voting.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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post #77

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While I disapprove of what the gov is doing here, I think it’s incorrect and unhelpful to put all the blame on them. AIUI, the UK is a democracy and these policies are generally supported by the voters.

really? From my anecdotal evidence, is that it's fucking stupid and hated

They have fair and competitive elections, no?

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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I wouldn't be so sure it's an ideological stand. 4chan got hacked a while back because they were running a totally outdated software stack. It's been pretty much abandoned by its owner hiromoot. If they aren't going to update the site for basic maintainance, they definitely aren't going to implement all this chat control/ age verification bullcrap. I suppose a resistance to change is good when your competitors are bu…

You can ban 75% of the web if your concern is outdated tech stacks and/or data breaches

75%? Are you being generous because it's weekend?

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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post #75

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Step 7: Camera AI that can catch the people scribbling “Sci-Hub is 190.115.31.218” on a bathroom wall.

Does that even work anymore? I thought plain IP addresses were a thing of the past ever since we started doing virtual hosts 25 years ago. I just get a 503 when I use the address you posted...

Put it in your hosts file ;)

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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> How will this work with chat control? There is no POC for a chat control E2E-compliant chat app and there will never be. this will just kill EU made software because they will be forced to comply, while US software will use real E2E as marketing.

The UK isn’t part of the EU anymore. As I understand it, this doesn’t apply to the broader group.

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Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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post #77

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While I disapprove of what the gov is doing here, I think it’s incorrect and unhelpful to put all the blame on them. AIUI, the UK is a democracy and these policies are generally supported by the voters.

really? From my anecdotal evidence, is that it's fucking stupid and hated

there's a reason anecdotes aren't data. While people are more divided on the effectiveness, there's pretty overwhelming pubblic support for laws like the Online Safety Act.

https://yougov.co.uk/technology/articles/52693-how-have-brit...

It's always slightly surprising to see Americans online react to this thinking there is some Illuminati conspiracy happening. Britain and Europe are not the US, we don't have much of an interest of having 4chan dictate public policy.

It's also a good lesson in how effective platforms like Twitter can be in manipulating public perception, given that the same users now seem to be able to openly agitate over there.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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do you think the public at large knows what VPS are? How to set up a VPN? the public at large barely understands the concept of files nowadays, if it's not app they're lost banning selling VPN and VPN apps will solve 90% of the problem and that's enough

> will solve 90% of the problem Remind me again, what the problem they're trying to solve is?

people using VPNs to circumvent banned or restricted content
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