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I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

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Re: I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

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That sounds like an awesome experience. Can you please share the links to the deck and the book?

Somewhat related: you might dig Andy Matuschak's Quantum Country project, which aims to incorporate a text's flash cards inside the text itself. https://quantum.country/ Later edit: I should have said "Andy Matuschak and Michael Nielson's".

Wow, I've been looking for this. Thanks for sharing!

Re: I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like an awesome experience. Can you please share the links to the deck and the book?

Somewhat related: you might dig Andy Matuschak's Quantum Country project, which aims to incorporate a text's flash cards inside the text itself. https://quantum.country/ Later edit: I should have said "Andy Matuschak and Michael Nielson's".

I love Andy Matuschak! His podcast with Dwarkesh was so enlightening and his blog is great as well. He's one of those people whose work I go back and read every couple of months and I always learn something new

Re: I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

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I use Anki with mostly pre-made decks (correcting mistakes when discovered) and only a couple of my own ones. This works for me, as building a deck from scratch, especially for something you don't know anything about yet, is more effort than I could ever find enough energy for. I only wish there were more curated high-quality decks for things, and I'd even happily pay for them now, but alas.

Which is to say, to each their own. I find it strange that people often insist that one way of learning or using a piece of software is objectively better than all other ways.

Re: I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

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I think that the author was using Anki incorrectly, and that led them to the spurious conclusion that "Anki is dead". I also have attempted to use Anki this way- using someone else's deck to try to force myself to learn something new. But that doesn't work, because it is just memorizing random symbols, as they noted in the article ("The enemy is the static card"). For example in maths learning, memorizing arbitrary t…

Look, if you want to learn a new language, move to a country and get a boyfriend/girlfriend. slaps hands my job is done here

Forty years ago, my French teacher said the easiest way to learn a language is to go live there for a few months. He didn't mention the boy/girlfriend part.

Re: I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

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This is why I built Manabi Reader (currently only for Japanese) https://reader.manabi.io It helps you discover reading material suited to your current knowledge. It’s better to acquire new words within colorful contexts, and then use flashcards to review them after learning the material. (It has its own flashcard companion app or you can use Anki.) Soon I am working on making the activity of reading words in native t…

> only for Japanese and only for Apple devices...

For Android there's Jidoujisho https://github.com/arianneorpilla/jidoujisho.

It's essentially Ttsu reader + Yomitan (née Yomichan) + Ankidroid integration packed into one app. You have to find your own reading material though, but there's plenty of that go around. Jidoujisho has some OCR support for reading manga too, although I never found those tools to be working well enough in any app.

For websites on Android (e.g. news or Aozora Bunko) the same can be achieved with Firefox + Yomitan - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/yomitan/ - as Yomitan has an Ankidroid integration of its own. Or any other browser with extension support, whether desktop or mobile, desktop versions integrate with desktop Anki.

In theory, Yomitan supports other languages as well, although making it work with Finnish took me quite some effort a year ago (maybe it's easier now).

Re: I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

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post #20

I think that the author was using Anki incorrectly, and that led them to the spurious conclusion that "Anki is dead". I also have attempted to use Anki this way- using someone else's deck to try to force myself to learn something new. But that doesn't work, because it is just memorizing random symbols, as they noted in the article ("The enemy is the static card"). For example in maths learning, memorizing arbitrary t…

Using someone elses deck is such a siren song, and I honestly believe it's detrimental to properly using Anki. Making and curating your own cards is an essential step in learning the new concepts.

Yes, thou the main problem stated in the article ("memorizing the rectangles") is very real. Now, I don't think you need much magic / LLM stuff to overcome that problem:

1. Instead of the usual "1 new word, 1 card" have 2 - 3 new words on each card, and have each new word in 3 - 4 different cards (ideally with different inflection, meaning, nuance, etc) 2. Review cards fast and very few times each. Like 5 - 8 times / card (max) instead of usual 15 - 20. 3. Don't punish yourself, keep moving on even if you just half-remember. First familiarize and then internalize language patterns instead of just memorize words.

Review intentionally, totally concentrated on the task. 10 mins / day well done >>> 30 mins / day mindlessly.

Outcome: more fun, more effective learning, no memorizing rectangles.

Re: I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

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I'm working on applying LLMs thoughtfully to flashcard-based language learning. The original iteration of the app didn't use AI at all and was more focused on the study interaction, but after some experimentation, I found LLMs worked well for a few key features:

* Generating a variety of example sentences

* Determining if a response was semantically similar to the target answer (my app requires providing an answer, similar to WaniKani), and explaining why or why not

* Explaining context and usage of a word

* Suggesting vocabulary words about highly specific interests (as long as its within the knowledge window of the model)

I've used it for over 60,000 reviews so far and it's working pretty well for my use case.

It can be tried out for free and is currently available on the web and iOS. It supports 8 languages and within each pair of languages, so if you are learning or speak English, Korean, Spanish, Japanese, Italian, French, German, or Chinese you can try it out for free. If it doesn't support your language and you're interested please feel free to get in touch.

https://get.meanings.app

Re: I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

#89

Facts are required for critical thinking. I wonder if the writer eventually transitioned from fact-memorization flashcards, to concept-based questions (how does it make sense that....?).

No, to be honest I haven't had so much practice with those kinds of cards; I've mostly used it for vocabulary and geography. How does it change things?

After single-fact memorization, concept-driven cards force retrieval of multiple related ideas and apply them to real-world critical thinking.

Examples:

- Cloze: "Swelling of the optic disc is called [c1::papilledema]"

Concept-based:

- Front: "Papilledema (optic disk swelling) - use the pathophysiology to explain what situations you would see this in generally."

- Back: "Anything causing central retinal vein drainage ↓ (e.g., high ICP or central retinal vein occlusion)."

- Extra field: """ Anything causing central retinal vein drainage ↓ (e.g., high ICP or central retinal vein occlusion) → back-up of blood into the capillaries of the optic nerve/disk → hydrostatic pressure ↑ → transudate of fluid leaking across the capillaries → optic nerve/disk swelling (optic disk swelling = papilledema).

Recall that the optic nerve (and thus the optic disk) drains into the central retinal vein, which ultimately drains into the cerebral circulation. """

Re: I did 98,000 Anki reviews. Anki is already dead

#90

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> only for Japanese and only for Apple devices...

For Android there's Jidoujisho https://github.com/arianneorpilla/jidoujisho . It's essentially Ttsu reader + Yomitan (née Yomichan) + Ankidroid integration packed into one app. You have to find your own reading material though, but there's plenty of that go around. Jidoujisho has some OCR support for reading manga too, although I never found those tools to be working well enough in any app. For websites on Android (e…

Jidoujisho seems like a great asset for Android
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