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When did AI take over Hacker News?

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Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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Maybe thinking needs a Turing test. If nobody can tell the difference between this and actual thinking then it's actually thinking. /s, or is it?

If I order Chinese takeout, but it gets made by a restaurant that doesn't know what Chinese food tastes like, then is that food really Chinese takeout?

If it tastes like great Chinese food (which is a pretty vague concept btw, it's a big country), does it matter?

Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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There is a relevant number of power users that also flag everything that is critical of big tech and won’t fit their frame as well, sending it into oblivion, regardless of the community rules and clear support from other voting members. But also calling that out is seen as negative and not constructive, and there goes any attempt at a discussion.

How do you know who flags submissions?

i don’t, but I know certain users have a strong flagging penchant.

check my recent submission, the vitriol it received, and read this

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/03/27/youll-never-gue...

Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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I noticed at one point a few days ago that all 10 out of the top 10 articles on the front page were about AI or LLMs. Granted, that doesn't happen often, but wow. This craze is just unrelenting.

This is something I do regularly - count how many of the top 10 articles are AI-related. Generally it is 4-6 articles out of the 10 (currently it is 5). The other day it was 9.

Even 4-6 articles out of the top 10 for a single topic, consistently, seems crazy to me.

Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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I'm more annoyed at the - clearly - AI based comments than the articles themselves. The articles are easy to ignore, the comments are a lot harder. In light of that I'd still love it if HN created an ignore feature, I think the community is large enough now that that makes complete sense. It would certainly improve my HN experience.

I added muting and annotating users to my Hacker News extension:

https://soitis.dev/comments-owl-for-hacker-news

Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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Weird what counts as "negative" on HN. Question something politely? You're being negative. Criticize something? Negative. Describe it in a way someone might interpret badly? Negative. Sometimes it seems like anything that's not breathless, unconditional praise is considered being negative and curmudgeonly. It's turning into a "positive thoughts only" zone.

There is a relevant number of power users that also flag everything that is critical of big tech and won’t fit their frame as well, sending it into oblivion, regardless of the community rules and clear support from other voting members. But also calling that out is seen as negative and not constructive, and there goes any attempt at a discussion.

Can you point to a set of recent comments that are critical of big tech while also not breaking the guidelines and make good points, and are flagged anyway?

All of the anti-big-tech comments I've ever seen that are flagged are flagged because they blatantly break the guidelines and/or are contentless and don't contribute in any meaningful sense aside from trying to incite outrage.

And those should be flagged.

Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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I would generally file questioning and criticism under "negative". Are you interpreting "negative" as a synonym for bad or something?

I would generally file questioning and criticism under “neutral”, in some very specific cases “positive” or “negative”. Are you interpreting “negative” as “anything not strictly positive”?

Questions can be neutral but questioning is probably negative, and criticism is solidly negative in my book.

So no I am not doing that.

In what world does "criticism" not default to "negative"?

Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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What I found insightful about this article was the framing of another article cited. > " This pretty negative post topping Hacker News last month sparked these questions, and I decided to find some answers, of course, using AI" The pretty negative post cited is https://tomrenner.com/posts/llm-inevitabilism/ . I went ahead to read it, and found it, imo, fair. It's not making any direct pretty negative claims about AI,…

Honestly, I read this a just a case of somewhat sloppy terminology choice:

- Positive → AI Boomerist

- Negative → AI Doomerist

Still not great, IMHO, but at the very least the referenced article is certainly not AI Boomerist, so by process of elimination... probably more ambivalent? How does one quickly characterize "not boomerist and not really doomerist either, but somewhat ambivalent on that axis but definitely pushing against boomerism" without belaboring the point? Seems reasonable read that as some degree of negative pressure.

Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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What I found insightful about this article was the framing of another article cited. > " This pretty negative post topping Hacker News last month sparked these questions, and I decided to find some answers, of course, using AI" The pretty negative post cited is https://tomrenner.com/posts/llm-inevitabilism/ . I went ahead to read it, and found it, imo, fair. It's not making any direct pretty negative claims about AI,…

> rather questioning first if the future being peddled is actually what we want

The author (tom) tricked you. His article is flame bait. AI is a tool that we can use and discuss about. It's not just a "future being peddled." The article manages to say nothing about AI, casts generic doubt on AI as a whole, and pits people against each other. It's a giant turd for any discussion about AI, a sure-fire curiosity destruction tool.

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