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Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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Re: Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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> For example, he expects there to be a hexagonal grid of apps, just like on the Apple Watch. One of the worst UI experiences out there.

YMMV. I also hate it (and use the simple, GenX-compatible alphabetically-ordered list) but all my kids and also my wife prefer the weird hex grid — they're just faster with it, it doesn't slow them down the way it does to my 1970s heavy-rock brain ¯\\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯

I can see how it is faster since you can see more apps at once but I just hate the scavenger hunt of it.

I feel like something normal like a 4x4 grid with multiple customizable pages would have made more sense.

Re: Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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You tell me, was the iPhone innovative?

The iPhone wasn’t as innovative as the AppStore which didn’t come around until iPhone OS 2. Selling software like music changed everything

Cool. App Store extended the true innovation which was a fully capable OS in everyone’s pocket

App Store doesn’t exist without iPhone just like Windows doesn’t exist without the PC

Re: Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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You tell me, was the iPhone innovative?

No it was inevitable

Inevitable * in hindsight *

Innovation is the introduction of a new paradigm that works so well that people can no longer imagine not having

No one was close to the original iPhone at launch and they didn’t really catch up until ~iPhone 12 for truly competitive alternatives

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You tell me, was the iPhone innovative?

Was Ive involved in the iPhone creation? Or only its enshittification?

Jony owned iPhone hardware design top-to-bottom through development and multiple launches

You think he’s glorified for literally nothing?

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Is it actually a good idea, though? It's crystal clear why companies would want to make and sell smart home devices which get customers locked into proprietary web services, but the problems these gadgets are meant to solve for the user have always struck me as... trivial. The last thing I want in my house are more fussy, flaky widgets to manage; they'd better have a really good reason to exist.

Anything more than air, water, shelter, food, and companionship is trivial. I want to live like I'm in Star Trek. The good Trek, not the new stuff. So when I wake up to pee in the middle of the night because I'm an old man my bathroom light turns on, dimmed to its lowest level, upon detecting my presence in the bathroom. I do my business and stumble back to bed and the light turns itself off. When I leave home my fro…

Thanks for sharing that perspective; that's exactly what I was curious about.

Re: Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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Apple wants you to buy a new phone every year. Home automation needs support for 30 years. IoT won't ever take off without strict regulations on long term support and open standards, including escrowed support.

Apple has the best track record of anyone for length of OS support on their phones. They're also trying to pivot from hardware purchases to the recurring revenue of "services". If making your home smart gets you to pay monthly for "Apple One" they'd probably be happy to support that for ages.

Not a high bar to clear when your back only competition is Android. They do barely better than most.

Re: Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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The iPhone wasn’t as innovative as the AppStore which didn’t come around until iPhone OS 2. Selling software like music changed everything

Cool. App Store extended the true innovation which was a fully capable OS in everyone’s pocket App Store doesn’t exist without iPhone just like Windows doesn’t exist without the PC

Not really. There was a way of slab typed smart phones with capacitance touch screen windows mobile devices and they were more capable than the iPhone with on board GPS, etc. but they didn’t have an integrated App Store, which was the key to customer retention. The first iPhones didn’t have GPS and so the map app wasn’t quiet as capable as the other high end smart phones in the market as it couldn’t do directions properly. It had the best web browser, though.

Every other model of high end smart phones quickly adopted the App Store model since it was such an obviously thing to install application directly to the device, but up until it was a major missing feature. All phones at the time required a computer tethered to do the purchase and installation.

With the App Store the age of phones needing full general purpose computers was coming to an end. It was a whole cultural shift in software

Later they started the iCloud sync so backups could be done ‘in the field’ as well.

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