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Post by danaris »

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #56
skeezyboy wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Needing to fix ADHD is itself a cultural thing. Back 100 years ago, you didn’t need an 8 hour attention span to sit at a desk staring at a monitor while the AC dries your eyeballs until they feel like foil scratching on a blackboard

There are ways in which ADHD is a societal issue rather than an individual one, sure.

But they're not the whole of ADHD.

If I habitually lose track of time, get wrapped up in the game that I'm playing, and forget to meet up with my friends when we've agreed to because of it, I'm going to lose friends. That's not a societal problem, that's just how relationships work.

If I absentmindedly leave a half-eaten yogurt out on the counter, and my clutter blindness makes me forget it's there for a week, it's going to grow mold. That's not a cultural thing, that's just how mold works.

And so on.

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Post by SubmarineClub »

klipklop wrote: post #77

The irony about getting treatment for ADHD is that medical providers make it very hard to get the proper medication and treatment. People with ADHD are horrible at following through and handle rejection poorly. So the worse the ADHD is, the less likely somebody will be able to actually get treatment for it. A lot of people suffer because doctors fear losing their license like so many did during the pain pill debacle.…

Yeah, it's ridiculous. I've been taking medication for ADHD since the 3rd grade. Why in the good goddamn should I have to go in EVERY month for a refill for a medication I've been taking for over 20 years.

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

SubmarineClub wrote: post #82
klipklop wrote: post #77

The irony about getting treatment for ADHD is that medical providers make it very hard to get the proper medication and treatment. People with ADHD are horrible at following through and handle rejection poorly. So the worse the ADHD is, the less likely somebody will be able to actually get treatment for it. A lot of people suffer because doctors fear losing their license like so many did during the pain pill debacle.…

Yeah, it's ridiculous. I've been taking medication for ADHD since the 3rd grade. Why in the good goddamn should I have to go in EVERY month for a refill for a medication I've been taking for over 20 years.

It’s the same thing for me and Klonopin and my psychosis. The Klonopin is the only thing that stops my psychosis yet they only give me 20 tablets at a time and since I’m homeless and driving around it’s really hard for me to get a new doctor and a new prescription. I’ve been taking it as needed for over nine years and they still can’t get it through their thick heads that I’m not gonna abuse it.

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

Do any of you ever wonder why, genetically and/or nutritionally, you have ADHD?

I advise you to take a look at the role of GABA in ADHD. It’s probably more important than the Norepinephrine and dopamine.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002839082...

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Post by groby_b »

klipklop wrote: post #77

The irony about getting treatment for ADHD is that medical providers make it very hard to get the proper medication and treatment. People with ADHD are horrible at following through and handle rejection poorly. So the worse the ADHD is, the less likely somebody will be able to actually get treatment for it. A lot of people suffer because doctors fear losing their license like so many did during the pain pill debacle.…

This doesn't even account for the perma-drama due to the artificial shortage generated by the DEA. Getting your prescription filled, if you manage to wrangle one, often requires hours of calling around which pharmacy can fill said prescription.

And you get to do that every months. And you can't get a prescription earlier, you have to wait a full month. So, essentially: Right when you're forced off your medication that helps your executive function, you need to exercise large amounts of executive function.

It's massively stupid.

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Post by diob »

klipklop wrote: post #77

The irony about getting treatment for ADHD is that medical providers make it very hard to get the proper medication and treatment. People with ADHD are horrible at following through and handle rejection poorly. So the worse the ADHD is, the less likely somebody will be able to actually get treatment for it. A lot of people suffer because doctors fear losing their license like so many did during the pain pill debacle.…

Yeah, the journey to stimulants for me was long and painful, with a lot of procrastination on my part. And now even having them prescribed it is a pain dealing with the bureaucratic / expensive nightmare of USA health insurance.

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Post by teamonkey »

autoexec wrote: post #39

Not surprised. ADHD medications save lives, including the lives of others when it comes to things like preventing car accidents. I could even see it being required for driving the way corrective lenses can be.

That reminds me of an article I read which claimed that being diagnosed with ADHD will prevent you from being a commercial pilot. Pilots will avoid getting diagnosed and medicated because it will kill their career, even though medication may make them safer.

(I suspect ADHD pilots would handle takeoff and landing very well, as well as emergencies, but oh god the checklists and schedules and that whole middle part of the flight…)

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Post by gms7777 »

DrewADesign wrote: post #58
schlauerfox wrote: post #41

The youtube channel of ADHD science researcher Russell Barkley gave me the push to get diagnosis in my last year of undergrad and It was like lightning to see all my symptoms laid out since childhood in context of the underlying brain science. He does a lot of debunking of bad research too. Great channel.

In addition to confirming and quantifying my more obvious and problematic symptoms, the reaction time tests clearly showed my very mild impulsivity. Nobody I know would call me impulsive, and in the questionnaires I’d have said I wasn’t impulsive, even though I had a sense I was subconsciously resisting that tendency. The tests were too quick for my usual masking reflex, and while I was still ultimately diagnosed wit…

I think especially as adults (esp. people that managed to get to adulthood without being diagnosed), a lot of people think they don't have certain symptoms, when really they just have developed elaborate systems for managing those symptoms.

I never related to "time blindness" because I was always consistently early for things, but really I was just deeply anxious about being on time for things. I would set like 10 alarms set, I wouldn't be able to do anything for an hour or two beforehand because I was worried about being late, and I'd usually show up way too early because I couldn't actually estimate when I needed to start getting ready to be on time. That doesn't exactly sound like the behavior of someone with a functional inner clock.

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Post by gms7777 »

footy wrote: post #53
bluefirebrand wrote: post #13

I was diagnosed with ADHD in my early 30s and prescribed Concerta to help manage it For a few years being medicated for ADHD was a godsend. I was finally able to be more productive and focus on work, my career took off in a huge way, I've literally tripled my income since I started medication Now I'm incredibly burned out, I've been having pretty severe memory problems, I'm on medical leave from my job to try and cou…

I don't know how old you are, or how long you've been on Concerta. But to provide a different experience to anyone reading this: I too got (re)diagnosed in my 30s and prescribed Concerta. Rediagnosed because my mom then told me I'd been diagnosed as a child and she just never told me. Finding the right dose took some trial and error, and to be honest "the right dose" is something that will probably vary throughout my…

> I also think even without the medication the diagnosis is worth it.

Yeah, I think our society views so many symptoms of ADHD as the worst type of personal failings, so I think there's a level of trauma associated with growing up undiagnosed and being consistently blamed and shamed for things that were out of your control. Even without medication, getting diagnosed was, for me, the first step towards healing and starting to unpack all that shame.

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Post by [deleted] »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #83
SubmarineClub wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. I've been taking medication for ADHD since the 3rd grade. Why in the good goddamn should I have to go in EVERY month for a refill for a medication I've been taking for over 20 years.

It’s the same thing for me and Klonopin and my psychosis. The Klonopin is the only thing that stops my psychosis yet they only give me 20 tablets at a time and since I’m homeless and driving around it’s really hard for me to get a new doctor and a new prescription. I’ve been taking it as needed for over nine years and they still can’t get it through their thick heads that I’m not gonna abuse it.

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