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Why I wear the same shirt every day

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Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#81
I see no harm to wearing a logo to represent one's company everyday. I also do not see any real value added. I understand that it can be advertisement. To me that is a quiet a stretch, unless thousands of people see that logo daily.

On the other hand, wearing the same thing everyday does save time and brain effort. I wear the same thing everyday and have done so for about two years. Technically my shirts are different, but I have narrowed down my options considerably. I own five pairs of the same pants(outlier; black). I have twelve button up shirts in plain colors (four are white, four are blue, two are grey, two are green). I either wear a NAU blazer or a black light jacket. I have three of the same sneakers and one pair of dress of shoes.

Everyday I wake up grab a pair of pants and a shirt. Depending on the weather, I can grab a jacket or not.

I consider it a type of lifehack. I do not think it is for everyone. It really simplified that part of my life.

Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#82
Maybe the only reason why Steve Jobs wore a black turtle neck every day is because without it, he'd never be able to use an Apple computer due to the high gloss screen reflections?

Personally, I think staring at my reflection all day long is a bit vain, but of course, to each their own.

Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#83
Kinda surprising to see this much negativity about this idea only three months after it was discussed before: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4084095 The comments there seem a bit less negative I think.

I started doing this shortly after that post, although I'd been thinking about it for longer. I have to say, my decision had nothing to do with saving time or context switching or Steve Jobs (even though what I picked, black t-shirts and jeans, is evocative of Jobs).

I made this decision because thinking about what to wear has always involved a little anxiety for me. I grew up never wearing the right thing, and was bullied and taunted a little bit for it, along with the usual things nerds are tormented about. Even though I'm no longer a socially outcast geek in high school, thinking about what to wear and how to dress gave me discomfort. Now it doesn't. I bet a lot of people who decide to go this route have similar feelings, of varying degrees.

I'm sure this won't last forever, and as I get older or work in a different, less forgiving company, I may need to adapt my "uniform" to be a bit more formal, but I really think people shouldn't take it so seriously here. Obviously if you're selling your startup every day, you might want to think about what you wear, although the OPs approach of wearing a branded t-shirt doesn't seem terrible.

But in general, we're hackers, we should be judging each other by our skills, not what we wear.

Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#84
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not so much "saving 10 seconds" as it is "avoiding cognitive context switching". If you happen to be thinking about something important, you don't want to interrupt that thought process to look through your clothes and decide what to wear, or what to have for breakfast, or which car to drive, or any number of other trivial decisions. If you can replace those with automatic non-decisions ("take the top shirt out…

oh lord..what about trying to be human for atleast some moments of the day instead of behaving like a production robot ? I bet we have to face hundreds if not thousands of those trivial decisions each day and most arent reoccurring all the time so you cant automate them...

We also choose to avoid making those sorts of decisions when we're focusing on more important things, preferably putting them off for other times. For example, it's common for coders to close their door, not check their e-mail, etc. when they want to be "in the zone".

When I'm getting ready in the morning, I tend to be focused on the important things. In my case, as a stay-at-home dad, the important things tend to be plans for teaching my son and helping him with his disability. I've arranged the rest of my morning to be as automatic as possible so I don't have to think about what clothes to wear or what to have for breakfast.

Incidentally, my son and I were just walking around with buckets on our heads pretending to be robots. Counting robots, not production robots :)

Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#85
post #47

You aren't Steve Jobs. I would give the opposite advice. The easiest thing you can do to make people like you more, trust you more and respect your opinion more is to dress well and appropriately. Job's outfit and Zuckerberg's hoodies work the same way (whether that was the intention or not, I think not). The same part of human brains that stupidly subconsciously judges people by the way they are dressed is doing the…

He's not doing this because he's Steve Jobs, he's doing it because he has a reason for doing it that Steve Jobs had first. Cue joke about "A system and method for dressing a human being." And man, I just don't know about the rest of that. If you can't wear what you want to because you're doing a startup...

"he has a reason for doing it that Steve Jobs had first" come on. He's an icon but lately people seem to get confused and sounding like he invented half of what the world is today. He did not invent the single shirt behaviour at all. Even my grand grand mother always told us she used to have a bunch of copies of here favourite skirt around, hand made and all, because it was so easy. And she lived already half a century before Jobs was even born.

Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#86

You aren't Steve Jobs. I would give the opposite advice. The easiest thing you can do to make people like you more, trust you more and respect your opinion more is to dress well and appropriately. Job's outfit and Zuckerberg's hoodies work the same way (whether that was the intention or not, I think not). The same part of human brains that stupidly subconsciously judges people by the way they are dressed is doing the…

I agree with you. There's a point where you can get away with wearing the same thing over and over and sure if you are famous like Steve Jobs was, hell that'll become a thing of its own. Hell once you reach the Steve Jobs level celebrity status, no matter what you do will make news. OMG Steve's diet is like this? He must have figured some dark magic. He dresses like that? There must something to it, let us all try... I think a lot of these visionary founders, etc... are very much closer to the normal every day person, it is the obsession of the public that makes them look more clever than they really are and it just snowballs from there. Once you get past a certain level, you can do anything and there will be a big enough group of people who would make a big deal out of it and praise you for whatever it is that you are doing.

Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#87

I'd like to see a life so absurdly optimized for productivity that the maximum 10 seconds you save every morning by not having to decide what to wear is worth even mentioning. The next post will probably be about opening doors more effectively, like Kramer, to save a couple of seconds off the time spent opening doors each day.

It's not so much "saving 10 seconds" as it is "avoiding cognitive context switching". If you happen to be thinking about something important, you don't want to interrupt that thought process to look through your clothes and decide what to wear, or what to have for breakfast, or which car to drive, or any number of other trivial decisions. If you can replace those with automatic non-decisions ("take the top shirt out…

Only in a hacker forum can you read about people wanting to eliminate the need to dress themselves in order to eliminate inefficient use of time.

Let's be realistic: getting dressed is not cognitively draining. Most of us rarely have to dress out of our comfort zone. Get yourself some "go to" outfits that are business-casual and semi-formal, so when the rare time comes when you have to "dress up" (what is that, four times a year?) you know what you're wearing. Other than that, it's jeans and t-shirts. When they all fit, you don't have to worry about what you happen to pick that day. I've never spent 15 minutes choosing what to wear in my life, and yet I've never been compelled to wear the same outfit on consecutive days.

Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#88

You aren't Steve Jobs. I would give the opposite advice. The easiest thing you can do to make people like you more, trust you more and respect your opinion more is to dress well and appropriately. Job's outfit and Zuckerberg's hoodies work the same way (whether that was the intention or not, I think not). The same part of human brains that stupidly subconsciously judges people by the way they are dressed is doing the…

That reminds me a story which mr. Lukacovic (founder of czech search engine seznam.cz) told cs students several years ago. When he was dealing with investors, he tries to show himself in a "nerdy light" (wearing old t-shirt and jeans) to actually get a better deal. The reasoning behind this was that this would make his partners beleive that they have an advantage, while the opposite was actually true because he indeed has some good fried who advised him in this matter.

So the "phychology hack" can work in both cases. Dressing yourself properly is a good default though.

Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#89
My solution to having to choose what to wear was very simple. When I got a little extra cash I reinvented my wardrobe using slacks and shirts (3 suits also, but that's for special occasions that require them). The trick was to get clothes that mainly can be worn interchangeably. Now I just grab a pair of slacks, a random shirt and I'm sure it'll look good because I spent the time to actually analyze my wardrobe woes when buying all the clothes.

On the weekends I just grab a tshirt and a pair of jeans at random, just like teenagers that are uninterested in making fashion statements. Just like the college student with 4 tshirts and 1 jeans that doesn't care about what he's wearing. Just like I do on the weekdays with my more "serious" clothes.

ALSO, people you can't mock the turtleneck thing. Even the top secret spys do it. Tactical turtlenecks anyone?

Re: Why I wear the same shirt every day

#90
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is cargo cultism. Aping dress habits isn't going to imbue you with the attributes that led to success for Jobs. The lesson a would-be successful person should learn from Jobs is to focus on what's essential . If you become so distracted with trying to copy minor habits, you've missed the point. And Steve Jobs was successful far before he started wearing the same thing all the time, anyway.

That wasn't the reason given though. He didn't say he did it just because Steve Jobs did it. He said that he did it for the same reason that Steve Jobs did it...which is that he doesn't have to think about what to wear.

atlast someone got it, thanks WayneDB
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