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Does Illumos have a desktop environment?
That's like asking if Linux has a desktop environment. Strictly, no, but Linux distributions do. So OpenIndiana has MATE and a couple of other options; Tribblix has about 30 desktop options; OmniOS you can install a desktop stack from pkgsrc.
I've been using OpenIndiana for a file server in my homelab since it came out and it's been quietly doing its job ever since without much issues. Coming from Linux it's not easy to find the equivalent commands of what I do on my other servers but it's also what I like about this project, it's another flavor of Unix to learn.
Sun had excellent documentation. But of course Oracle crapped all over it... If you can find documentation for Solaris 9 I imagine a lot of it would be the same. And there's the Solaris 8 Administration book from O'Reilly - I'm sure you can find PDFs of that floating around.
Thanks for the PDF suggestion, I didn't think about looking for a book to get more context!
I learned a lot about Plan 9 by following a boot camp ran by SDF, I wish there was something like that to promote Illumos distributions
Look to figure out what is it: https://docs.openindiana.org/misc/openindiana/ To be short, it is opensource implementation of SUN Solaris OS. I don't know if it is already developed much.
I did a sort of review 3Y ago. It may throw some light:
https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/07/new_version_of_openin...
I've spent two minutes look at this website and I still have no idea what this project is.
Oracle bought Sun and killed OpenSolaris. There is a continuing community fork called illumos. OpenIndiana is a distro of illumos.
Is there really a valid use case these days if you are not a hobbyist/fanboy or have existing Solaris workload compared to FreeBSD (or Linux if licensing isn't an issue)? ZFS seems quite well-supported on those.
I've been using OpenIndiana for a file server in my homelab since it came out and it's been quietly doing its job ever since without much issues. Coming from Linux it's not easy to find the equivalent commands of what I do on my other servers but it's also what I like about this project, it's another flavor of Unix to learn.
Between late 2010 and 2012 I was playing with OI in a VM, and I can read a lot of excitement about it in my old emails :)
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Given that they killed the roadmap and admitted there will never be a Solaris 12 after laying off 90% of the core developers - I would bet on that. https://www.zdnet.com/article/sun-set-oracle-closes-down-las...
Not doing another major release of doesn't exactly rule out keeping it as the reference platform for their core database product. I guess my question - I honestly have no idea and it's been years since I paid attention to Oracle or Sun's inner workings - is whether they're still developing SPARC hardware? The Google seems to say no, they've abandoned that... so I'm inclined to agree with you guys now. I don't have a…
Their core reference platform moved from SPARC to Linux + X86 almost a decade ago. They pushed Exadata down everyone's throat at the time with their "it'd be too bad if we have to audit you unless you buy this new hardware" approach.
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Not doing another major release of doesn't exactly rule out keeping it as the reference platform for their core database product. I guess my question - I honestly have no idea and it's been years since I paid attention to Oracle or Sun's inner workings - is whether they're still developing SPARC hardware? The Google seems to say no, they've abandoned that... so I'm inclined to agree with you guys now. I don't have a…
SPARC hardware is also dead. Their core reference platform moved from SPARC to Linux + X86 almost a decade ago. They pushed Exadata down everyone's throat at the time with their "it'd be too bad if we have to audit you unless you buy this new hardware" approach. https://www.oracle.com/engineered-systems/exadata/
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Not doing another major release of doesn't exactly rule out keeping it as the reference platform for their core database product. I guess my question - I honestly have no idea and it's been years since I paid attention to Oracle or Sun's inner workings - is whether they're still developing SPARC hardware? The Google seems to say no, they've abandoned that... so I'm inclined to agree with you guys now. I don't have a…
SPARC hardware is also dead. Their core reference platform moved from SPARC to Linux + X86 almost a decade ago. They pushed Exadata down everyone's throat at the time with their "it'd be too bad if we have to audit you unless you buy this new hardware" approach. https://www.oracle.com/engineered-systems/exadata/
Everything is converging on Linux these days, and even the majority of the people who used to promote Solaris, DTrace and ZFS, have seemingly moved on, mostly to Linux, somewhat to FreeBSD, too, per Brendan Gregg: Solaris to Linux Migration 2017 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15177118 - Sept 2017 (129 comments) In the BSD land, things aren't that much better, either. Netgate, the makers of pfSense, are now us…
> Everything is converging on Linux these days Linux is too bloated.
I mean, even if you get a job at Oxide Computer, what do you do if you decide to move on because of your manager or whatnot?
Literally all the sectors are Linux now, you'd think BSD would be huge in embedded because of licensing, yet it's still Linux. OpenWrt is Linux, Android is Linux, OpenIPC is Linux, not to mention the entire data-centre stacks being all Linux now.