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Nokia faked the still photos too

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Re: Nokia faked the still photos too

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Post by myko »

jonah wrote: post #42
coob wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except there's no implying or warning, just outright lying about this being a sample image.

Agreed. They should have small disclaimer text at the bottom. And that's what everyone should be up in arms about, not that they faked it in the first place. I know there are rules for food advertising, but don't know about other types of products... There's not a safety liability issue like with cars, but.

I don't really understand how either is okay, but I would prefer at least the disclaimer. I still find that form of advertising misleading at best.

Re: Nokia faked the still photos too

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Post by sesqu »

mehrshad wrote: post #40
anovikov wrote: post #6

I can say precisely which lens was used to make that photo: Canon EF 17-40 L USM on a DSLR. Or some other very, very similar lens. No photographer can mistake this for anything. Like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/meonoctis/5661946485/in/set-721...

I thought the backdrop looked familiar. The first and third photos were taken next to the Sokos Hotel Vaakuna (located across the rail depot), where I stayed when I was in Helsinki in late June, at the time of the summer solstice (20+ hours of light). I'm no photography expert like anovikov, but I can attest that the street lighting was nowhere near as bright as depicted in these photos, even at 2am when it was darke…

The lighting was artificial[1]. I don't mind that part as much though, it's the professional camera that's more disingenuous.

[1] https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/578446_101510870...

Re: Nokia faked the still photos too

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Post by zerostar07 »

digitalengineer wrote: post #28

There's only one way out of this for Nokia. They need to release new photo's and video's created with the new Nokia Wndows 8 Phone right the f * now. With as much EXIF and/or metadata as possible. If I was Nokia I'd hire the best photographer-artist the world knows and make a big splash about it.

Then you 'd have to make the same demands from the whole advertising industry (so Ghandi never used Macs? who knew!)

Re: Nokia faked the still photos too

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Post by brudgers »

Faking images for a product rollout appears to be common mobile-electronics industry practice. Apple faked a video still from Star Trek and made a fake video of the New York Times for their iPad introduction.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Apple-Exposed-As-Liars-in-Fak...

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/22/apples-ipad-nytimes-prom...

I wonder if Nokia cross-licensed Apple's patent.

Re: Nokia faked the still photos too

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Post by epo »

goblin89 wrote: post #30
kleiba wrote: post #4

No way... Fake pictures in ads? Who would have thought!

I've heard[0] that ‘big’ camera makes like Canon or Nikon regularly advertise their products using photos made with completely different equipment. It would be more surprising if Nokia used actual photos made with Lumia in promotion materials, I guess. [0] http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3/h3d-1.htm : “For those of us in the press (Ken), we laughed when we looked at the EXIF data of Nikon's PR photos of the D3. The…

Rockwell is a noted self-publicist with a politician's reputation for truth and accuracy. Nikon can take their PR shots with whatever is best, should P&S publicity shots be taken with that P&S model? Of course not. If on the other they take photos with professional equipment and claim or imply that it was taken with a mobile phone then that is deceitful.

Re: Nokia faked the still photos too

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Post by bradddd »

jcr wrote: post #84

In case the HN submission of the following doesn't float to the front page, it seems Nokia has apologized for the fake advertisement: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19499879 EDIT: The HN submission https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4483817

So there WAS a reflection to go all CSI on.

Also, terrible that their response is simply that they should have "posted a disclaimer."

Re: Nokia faked the still photos too

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Post by pycassa »

ajanuary wrote: post #79
manaskarekar wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is more of just a pigheaded move by the advertising team. Nokia camera's have been good in the past and I have no doubt this is probably a good one. One ad campaign is short lived, the photos taken by consumers who buy the phone on the other hand will continue to trickle in. It doesn't make too much sense for them to rely on this fact. What the whole brouhaha is that they probably thought 'It's just an a…

In most markets the ice cream in an ice cream ad has to be ice cream. The ice cream in non-ice cream ads, on the other hand, can be anything.

actually, i read some where regarding tips in food photography.. where they dont actually use ice cream.. let me find you the link.. it is more of an advertising thing..
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