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Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

#81

how are you even meant to review 10k lines of code a day?

One key process advantage Meta has is that all commits (diffs) require review by someone other than you, preferably supported by added tests and tests passing (whether locally or by automated test infrastructure). It gets more complicated when testing and reducing risk of deploying infrastructure and client platform code rather than pure service-oriented software running as part of an app.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

#82

> But he's not naive. This is not 10,000 lines of bug-filled crap. > As it turns out I met another startup today that's using AI to do ongoing testing of changing codebases. (He's not using them yet though.) This is a satire, right?

When someone becomes sufficiently and necessarily old and grizzled, our existence collapses into schadenfreudian enjoyment of confusing the uninitiated.

Or: too much weed tweeting.

Twitter is such a superficial format that obliterates all context, reason, and sense of humanity. I'm still 100% unsure what the intent of that conveyance was. Brain fart? That's why I don't tweet. Also, I'm too old.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure of queries in `.js` files? Or do you mean `.rs` files? grep -r -i --include="*.jsx" --include="*.tsx" "SELECT\|INSERT\|UPDATE\|DELETE" ./adminapp grep -r -i --include="*.jsx" --include="*.tsx" "SELECT\|INSERT\|UPDATE\|DELETE" ./menuapp

Apologies, they are in JSON files. GitHub truncated the last two characters on my mobile. https://github.com/brainless/letsorder/blob/main/backend/.sq...

I had the same doubt early on, I had asked Claude and checked this:

https://docs.rs/sqlx/latest/sqlx/macro.query.html#offline-mo...

Looks like we are supposed to check them into version control.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. And I wonder why Paul Graham is jumping on such a statement. Of everything I've read by him so far, this has the least substance.

I suppose VC love it. They want to lower the bar to building products, and make them cheaper. They want a steady line of investable companies with cheap hiring down the line. More generally, it's weird. 10 years ago, the technical aspects would legitimately be seen as a major, perhaps main obstacle to building a product. It's questionable whether that is really gone (can you really, really build a software product no…

> VC love it. They want to lower the bar to building products, and make them cheaper.

Yes! VCs want to make it so cheap and easy to build that you don’t need VCs anymore!

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

#88

He says that this is not 10,000 lines of bug-filled crap… but, unless you are explicitly verifying and testing the code, how would you know? And, what kind of solution needs 10,000 lines of code added to it daily ? Then again, these could be separate solutions. but, still… this 10,000-lines-of-code-a-day thing seems strange.

Exactly. And I wonder why Paul Graham is jumping on such a statement. Of everything I've read by him so far, this has the least substance.

VCs fund companies. For them, employee compensation is a cost against their profits. In tech, this is the largest cost by far. The owners of capital deeply deeply deeply want a future where they can earn their billions without paying the rabble anything. AI is selling this idea to them.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. And I wonder why Paul Graham is jumping on such a statement. Of everything I've read by him so far, this has the least substance.

VCs fund companies. For them, employee compensation is a cost against their profits. In tech, this is the largest cost by far. The owners of capital deeply deeply deeply want a future where they can earn their billions without paying the rabble anything. AI is selling this idea to them.

and the rabble deeply wants a future where CEOs are deprived of billions because AI has taken their job.

Hey, who wants to start a project for CEO.ai?

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

#90

He says that this is not 10,000 lines of bug-filled crap… but, unless you are explicitly verifying and testing the code, how would you know? And, what kind of solution needs 10,000 lines of code added to it daily ? Then again, these could be separate solutions. but, still… this 10,000-lines-of-code-a-day thing seems strange.

To be fair. After having done this for the last 6 months (sabbaticals are fantastic things). About 5k lines of code corresponds to 1-2 "decent" features. And though an ai skeptic originally I've turned around - so 10k is not hard if:

A. you are doing this "full time"

B. Know what to build

C. More importantly you know "how" you want it built and you push the llm to refactoring regularly in your style.

I don't buy into the "let the agent code for 6 hours straight" agentic nonsense. I review every (big) change and just saving me stackoverflow/Google visits has been a huge productivity booster. Heck I wrote css, proto plugins, dsl parsers, simple games and more because now I needed much less "onboarding" times.

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