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I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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It's not, at least not in any dictionary I've consulted. Though in context it works, I guess.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/other Added in November 2017 according to https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/other-as-a-verb

I've started hearing "x" be used as a verb as well... As in "We need to 4x our output!".

I hate it as much as I hate MBA wankers using "ping" as if they're ICMP compliant...

Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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In the US, I think we should consider that many people go through four socially traumatic transitions: 1. Moving away to college. 2. Moving for work. 3. Getting married. 4. Having kids. Each of those tends to sever many friendships in ways that are more painful than a lot of us realize or acknowledge. We might even consider what it says about us as a people that we seem to value all of the points on that list more th…

I still believe I did the right thing by leaving—the community there goes against many of my most deeply held values. But as I've gotten older That is probably also relatively prevalent in HN circles I would presume. Especially if one was "the odd one out. "Community" is not everything. A lot of "small town" stuff and "values" aren't really only positive. Everyone knows everyone and everything about everyone? Great,…

> That weirdo atheist in a small Texas town?

Yes, that was also me before I became a weirdo in Lousiana. I lived in a bunch of places in the South.

The religiosity I could deal with, but the racism, homophobia, and authoritarianism less so.

Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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Some people become friends for life. At least for me, they were the people I became friends with during my formative years. From my teens and up until young adulthood. Looking back, we became friends due to shared interests (movies, books, music), hobbies, and just general chemistry. Other people, you become friends with due to some shared situation. School, work, place you live, the places you go/frequent, etc. Once…

Why does self-realization mean not having friends?

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Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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The article starts with:

> On a warm July evening, I dove into bed and grabbed my phone, giddy and anxious. As I scrolled through TikTok, attempting to calm my nerves, a Google Calendar notification flashed on the screen: “VIDEO CALL WITH SIMONE.”

> Before I could swipe the reminder away, Simone FaceTimed me.

That makes me want to build a "Tinder" for rebooting relationships: select who of your friends you want to talk to, and after they do the same, the app will schedule a video call, and you'll be connected with... a mystery friend from your past! For people who don't like surprises, if both parties vote to reveal their names, you'll know who you're reconnecting with.

Or if you don't get any matches, the app will connect you to a mental health/relationship councillor...

Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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The article starts with: > On a warm July evening, I dove into bed and grabbed my phone, giddy and anxious. As I scrolled through TikTok, attempting to calm my nerves, a Google Calendar notification flashed on the screen: “VIDEO CALL WITH SIMONE.” > Before I could swipe the reminder away, Simone FaceTimed me. That makes me want to build a "Tinder" for rebooting relationships: select who of your friends you want to ta…

I have friends across the world. I talk with 7 of them every quarter.

We have scheduled video calls on our calendar. And after every call, we put notes on the call schedule.

Before the call, we get notified and we confirm if both parties will be available over text message.

Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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This piece is in Vogue . Could have been in Elle . Ever wonder about why articles in Sports Illustrated go off on politics? Same reason. These writers, by and large, went to Ivy League schools. Their classmates were hired at the New York Times (serious) or Saturday Night Live (funny). They want to point out hey, I have a great vocabulary and know art and such, too. Even if I just nominally write about clothes or base…

Clothes and baseball is a better occupation than making up rape stories to fuel a genocide at the NYT.

My wife hates the intrusion aspect as much as sports fans do. She reads fashion magazines to relax, not to get some political screed.

Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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Diverging values I think is why it’s not a bad thing that marriage is being postponed closer to 30 now. Promising to be with someone forever when you don’t even know who you or they are yet is wishful thinking at best and lying at worst. If we ever find a way to delay puberty without delaying formation of the prefrontal cortex, I think humanity will be in for a better time. You’ll get a few more years of being able t…

~43% of first marriages fail, ~60% of second marriages, ~73% third marriages. Roughly half of all children will see their parents’ marriage end or them separate (per the CDC). Frankly, I think people should date, love, coparent, etc, but not get married.

You can tell by looking at those numbers how much of "XX% of all marriages fail" is a consequence of how many people who get divorced 1x end up getting divorced 3 or more times.

There's a certain kind of Hollywood story where the person goes to the ends of the world to 'discover themselves' and comes back with a whole new life. Such as Eat, Pray, Love. I loathe this story arc with the fire of a thousand suns because if serial divorces teach us anything it's that wherever you go, there you are.

If you're not going into a second marriage with a narrative of, "I think I know what I fucked up last time and I won't do that again," then you're going to end up blaming your new spouse for all of your bullshit that you tried to blame on the first one.

Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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Advice from someone in their 30s who has successfully kept the majority of their closest friends from high school and college (around 10 people) but also lost several key people over the years: - Keep a semi-regular communication channel. For me this is easy, it isn't a chore for me to just text people. I know some people find this harder. If I see something I think they would find funny, I send them a link. If I sta…

I very much agree with all of this but do you find your friends reciprocate? Also mid 30s, I keep in touch with a few friends but arguably only 1 or 2 consistently reach out on their own.

IMO, this doesn't matter much. Ultimately, the only question that matters is "Do I get enough enjoyment/fulfillment spending time with this person to eclipse the work of organizing?" One of my best friends is a horrendous organizer. But when I invite him to things, I never have to ask twice. It's either an immediate "absolutely" or a "that day doesn't work for me, how about this day". And then it's a commitment. No flaking, no repeated rescheduling.

Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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Years ago, I met someone at a large company and they perused a friendship with me. I was always friendly, and I invited them to larger parties because I considered them part of my extended group of friends.

But, they really struggled at life. I moved away, and I never made the effort to keep in touch.

A few years ago they called me to talk. We caught up, and it was clear they still struggled at life. A few phone calls later, they got "stuck" on a topic and wouldn't converse, instead arguing with me when there was no argument to have. I ended the call, and I don't really want to hear from them again. (Basically, they were going off on their opinions about guns and not listening enough to me to know when I was agreeing and when my opinion differed.)

It became clear why they struggle at life, and it's disappointing that they don't have the insight into why they struggle.

Re: I asked four former friends why we stopped speaking (2023)

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Friendships come and go over the years is something I have learned in my life. We dont always have the same value systems and because of that, its natural to drift apart and not talk as frequently as we used to

This is something I am learning as a late bloomer in life, as I didnt have too many friends more so business acquaintances growing up

The hardest lessons I hace learned though is during major life transitions - sometimes you are off on your own, you have to manage that transition yourself and cannot rely on anyone in particular through it

Friendships require work but sometimes they arent on equal terms either, and when things shift away that created that strong bond to begin with, people drift apart. Thats something that is hard to cope with, that sense of loss in wanting that nostaglic connection again

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