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Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

#81
I thank Tim Cook for this information. Till today I did not know the extent of Apple's commitment to or interest in doing frontier AI research.

I was leaning towards buying a Mac, but now I won't because I do what (little) I can to slow down AI.

Switching to Windows would also clearly be encouraging the AI juggernaut, so I will stay with Linux.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

#84

> there was a smartphone before the iPhone; there were many tablets before the iPad; there was an MP3 player before iPod That's the biggest shift I've heard from Apple. They were either "first" or ignored the existence of competing features/products for ages. I'm really surprised by this quote. Compare "smartphones before iPhone" to the original announcement: > iPhone also ushers in an era of software power and sophi…

Can you source the apple PR claiming they invented the mp3 player or the smartphone?

I recall marketing comparing iPhones to blackberries. They even had iTunes running on Motorola phone

https://www.makeuseof.com/itunes-phone-before-the-iphone-exp...

Nobody claimed Apple was the first at this. They were just the best, eventually. But it’s been 20 years

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Or, apples just so bad at this they’re fumbling the bag. Billions in cash on hand each quarter but don’t have the balls that zuck has to pay unreasonable money. They have their own hardware like google does but are talking about perplexity??? They have all data but can’t seem to get an llm that can set an alarm and be a chatbot at the same time? Sometimes company’s just don’t do good enough.

> "They have all data but can’t seem to get an llm that can set an alarm and be a chatbot at the same time?" This is actually one of the hardest frontier problems. The "general purpose" assistant is one of the singular hardest technical problems with LLMs (or any kind of NLP). I think people are easily snowed by LLMs' apparent linguistic fluency that they impute that to capability. This cannot be further from the tru…

You split up the tasks into sub agents. This is something my company builds on top of langgraph.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Apple may be greedy but they can’t be accused of bungling long term strategy. While OpenAI sells $2 bills for $1, Tim Cook was out there increasing service revenue and profitability so that it was larger than Macs and iPads combined. Tim Cook presided over some incredibly lucrative product launches like AirPods, TV+, Apple Music, moved chip design in house which doubled Mac market share and has made the iPhone contin…

Lucrative but not cool. There's no long term strategy if there's no new, category-defining, cool products. People will eventually sour on the same-old, same-old and expensive, fragile, unrepairable products. Excessive greed obliterates goodwill. You don't seem to understand sj placed cool first, while TC was the bean counter and continues to optimize this while jumping the shark. Current Apple has a deep, systemic la…

“sj placed cool first” … in what universe?

Steve placed “Steve likes it” first. Many of the things he liked were terrible.

Cool things happen(ed) at Apple in spite of executive leadership, not because of it. The better E-team players know to stand back and not get in the way.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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post #47

Tim Cook is a "Keep things ticking along" CEO, not a "Change course to a new destination" CEO. Initiatives like this will probably require different leadership to succeed.

Tim Cook is the guy you hire to squeeze more money from your existing customer base. He is not the guy you hire to create new cool things.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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post #72

Current "good enough" models like Mistral Small require GPUs like the RTX 6000 to achieve user-friendly response times. The model quality is good enough, especially for narrow-scope tasks like summarization and classification. If Moore's Law holds for a few more years, a mobile device will be able to run it on-device in around 8 years (Apple's A11: 410 GFLOPS vs. RTX 6000: 16 TFLOPS [1]). This is under the assumption…

Inference is getting cheaper by the minute, because hardware is getting cheaper and also because smarter ideas like latent attention are spreading.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

#89
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On Thursday, Apple reported yet another record financial quarter.

That doesn't seem to help Apple achieve AGI

Apple is not trying to achieve AGI.

Not to mention, nobody else has achieved AGI. LLMs are not that.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

#90
They need to fix bugs first. For fucks sake, predictive text on the iOS keyboard regularly predicts non-grammatical words, and dictation is terrible. It’s ridiculous that AI is good enough to write sonnets and coherent code, yet Apple can’t even do autocomplete. Whisper has been available for forever, yet it’s still painful to enter text on iOS without a third party app.
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