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Re: British man claims he's unable to watch porn as tattoos confuse age check system

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Post by briansm »

klipklop wrote: post #68
wand3r wrote: post #3

This is a pretty wild story but also an illustration of just how dystopian the world has gotten. The UK has gone completely bonkers with this "real id to use the internet" law. In the US Google is using a crazy AI algorithm to prohibit people under 18 from viewing some content on YouTube. Obviously, the stated purpose of the policy is good IMO. However, I can't help but take a cynical view that Google is using this a…

Everyone can see what is coming, but it appears we will give up everything to “protect the children.” One “reasonable” new rule at a time.

that's not true, consumerism is only growing, people are not giving up anything in that regard.

The planet is getting trashed and 'the children' are doomed.

Individually We try and help, driving less, recycling and so on, but it kinda gets diluted by a billion Chinese moving into the middle-class and burning coal like there's no tomorrow.

Re: British man claims he's unable to watch porn as tattoos confuse age check system

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Post by aspenmayer »

defrost wrote: post #55
jfoster wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dystopia even extends to HN. This was near the top of the front page just half an hour ago, but now it's buried several pages away. Not for discussion, apparently. I realize it was likely flagged, but burying anything controversial means that only vanilla topics will ever be discussed in any depth. Yet the engineers who frequent HN and work at big tech companies are the ones who need to know about cases like this…

> burying anything controversial means that only vanilla topics will ever be discussed in any depth. You place too much weight on reading the "front page" .. that's community and mod curated toward the core ethos of the site. HN has a wealth of ongoing in depth discussion of all manner of things that often don't make "front page", you can see these if you (say) browse or follow new comments or active threads * https:…

I am a huge fan of your links. Here's another:

https://news.ycombinator.com/pool

More info about this feature from resident cool HN person minimaxir:

https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/#secon...

Re: British man claims he's unable to watch porn as tattoos confuse age check system

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Post by 113 »

o11c wrote: post #46
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #9

I'm still confused about the purpose behind these laws. Are there still adults stupid enough to think that watching porn will mess a kid up? Because there's now two whole generations of kids who have grown up watching porn (my generation, and the one after). So far younger people don't seem any more fucked up than people were before, only the older people seem to be getting worse.

> Are there still adults stupid enough to think that watching porn will mess a kid up? This absolutely is a real problem, especially for younger kids. Have you talked to a teacher? Think things like "a kindergartner runs around grabbing teachers' tits and saying "I want to ..." lines you'd expect from a rape work like 50 Shades of Gray . It is neither in the child's interest nor in the interest of society at large to…

> Have you talked to a teacher? Think things like

This is just an anecdote with no way to verify it or the cause.

Re: British man claims he's unable to watch porn as tattoos confuse age check system

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Post by 113 »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #9

I'm still confused about the purpose behind these laws. Are there still adults stupid enough to think that watching porn will mess a kid up? Because there's now two whole generations of kids who have grown up watching porn (my generation, and the one after). So far younger people don't seem any more fucked up than people were before, only the older people seem to be getting worse.

> Are there still adults stupid enough to think that watching porn will mess a kid up?

Not only this but there seems to be no one on mainstream platforms putting forward the argument that what will mess kids up is a lack of access to sex education, which the bill also restricts.

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Post by throw0101d »

klipklop wrote: post #68
wand3r wrote: post #3

This is a pretty wild story but also an illustration of just how dystopian the world has gotten. The UK has gone completely bonkers with this "real id to use the internet" law. In the US Google is using a crazy AI algorithm to prohibit people under 18 from viewing some content on YouTube. Obviously, the stated purpose of the policy is good IMO. However, I can't help but take a cynical view that Google is using this a…

Everyone can see what is coming, but it appears we will give up everything to “protect the children.” One “reasonable” new rule at a time.

> Everyone can see what is coming, but it appears we will give up everything to “protect the children.” One “reasonable” new rule at a time.

Yeah:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocalyp...

Re: British man claims he's unable to watch porn as tattoos confuse age check system

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Post by throw0101d »

datameta wrote: post #45
linux2647 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a turning point, but Star Trek lore also had Earth go through World War III before things actually got better

And the self-descriptive Eugenics Wars...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_wars

Re: British man claims he's unable to watch porn as tattoos confuse age check system

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Post by tim333 »

selcuka wrote: post #14
curtis3389 wrote: post #7

The UK seems terrible at this whole "free society" thing.

> The UK seems terrible at this whole "free society" thing. Did you mean "Airstrip One"?

Which of course is from a British novel arguing in favour of free society with the dystopia based on Stalinism and nazi Germany.

Re: British man claims he's unable to watch porn as tattoos confuse age check system

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

o11c wrote: post #46
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #9

I'm still confused about the purpose behind these laws. Are there still adults stupid enough to think that watching porn will mess a kid up? Because there's now two whole generations of kids who have grown up watching porn (my generation, and the one after). So far younger people don't seem any more fucked up than people were before, only the older people seem to be getting worse.

> Are there still adults stupid enough to think that watching porn will mess a kid up? This absolutely is a real problem, especially for younger kids. Have you talked to a teacher? Think things like "a kindergartner runs around grabbing teachers' tits and saying "I want to ..." lines you'd expect from a rape work like 50 Shades of Gray . It is neither in the child's interest nor in the interest of society at large to…

What you're talking about is internalized normalization of abuse. The kid was probably molested. Very unfortunate, but these things happen without porn. I'd talk to experts about this rather than assume "porn did it". And in any case, if a kid is behaving like that, you can then educate them on how to behave properly; the same would be true if the kid was punching other kids in the face. (and by the way, the "porn make kids bad" argument was the one used against violent video games years ago; turns out kids don't mimic everything they see in a screen)

If you absolutely must have a barrier to entry, let it be a credit card or other form of payment (everyone likes free porn, but sex work is real work and deserves to be paid). It's something not a lot of kids have access to (a bank account) and you don't have to track people's identities anymore. (Kids can steal their parents' cards but that's on the parents.)

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