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‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

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Post by wonderwonder »

carefulfungi wrote: post #74
wonderwonder wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there anything that could be done to stop this? Anything that a hypothetical terrorist organization that raped and murdered 1,000 men, women and children could give back that would lead to an immediate ceasefire? If only there was but I guess we will never know as I am sure there is not an organization so evil that while claiming to represent its people gleefully causes their deaths. An organization so evil that i…

This shooting occurred in the West Bank, which is not controlled by Hamas. What's your redline? Is there any action that Israel can take that you won't justify?

The post I replied to was referencing genocide in Gaza. [Its been flagged, I can't post the text] If a terrorist group raped and murdered your wife and took your children is there a line in the sand that you would not want your government to cross to get them back? Would you be willing for your government to kill 2 innocents to get back your 3 kids? What about 10 innocents? What about 100? 1000? Is there a number where you would say "my kids lives just aren't worth it, let them die alone and abandoned by me in the tunnels"?

For me there is not, if a million had to die to get my children back then so be it. That is the view point I look at this war from. Hamas murdered, raped, tortured and kidnapped a thousand people. They did it on camera and laughed and celebrated the entire time. The people in Gaza welcomed them back as heroes. The government should do whatever is required to ensure it never happens again and that those still held are returned. Its what I would want my government to do.

Re: ‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

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Post by hn_go_brrrrr »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #69
OutOfHere wrote: post #57

The game theory, as per recent events, is as follows: 1. Hamas doesn't accept a two-state solution. 2. Israel is therefore forced into implementing a one-state solution.

It looks like israel is the one rejecting 2-state solutions* * - 2-state means 2 co-equal states, with equal people, and equal rights (including the equal right to be safe from the other)

Neither Hamas nor Israel's current right-wing government wants the kind of solution you're proposing.

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Post by an0malous »

lifestyleguru wrote: post #61
dfedbeef wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Why are these people so upset I'm just bulldozing their home'

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It’s sickening that this is the whole reason for the genocide. They’re auctioning land in the West Bank in the US, Trump is talking about building resorts in Gaza, Israeli politicians are talking about building the “Greater Israel.” It was never about Hamas or the hostages, it’s just a land grab.

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Post by nsksl »

vagippona wrote: post #20
wafflemaker wrote: post #19

Last night I went to bed late and my wife had trouble sleeping. She said that she is afraid of the world where a state can decide that they will plannedly un-live whole other nation and nobody is willing to do anything about that. We're both from the country where most of the planned un-living of the First Holocaust were performed. We recently discussed how in a street poll, half of Polish population couldn't solve a…

Out of curiosity, are you referring to this "action" in the Balkans, where the UN soldiers basically stood up watching and doing absolutely nothing while 8k civilians where executed? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

Ah sorry, I thought he may be talking about the bombing of Belgrade :)

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

pif wrote: post #78
wafflemaker wrote: post #19

Last night I went to bed late and my wife had trouble sleeping. She said that she is afraid of the world where a state can decide that they will plannedly un-live whole other nation and nobody is willing to do anything about that. We're both from the country where most of the planned un-living of the First Holocaust were performed. We recently discussed how in a street poll, half of Polish population couldn't solve a…

> She said that she is afraid of the world where a state can decide [...] and nobody is willing to do anything about that. You may explain her that this is a different face of the same world where a state has been targeted by hatred and terrorism for 80 years, and everybody insisted on them being patient and just live with it. What's happening is sad, but it is not sadder than what preceded it.

>> She said that she is afraid of the world where a state can decide that they will plannedly un-live whole other nation and nobody is willing to do anything about that.

> You may explain her that this is a different face of the same world where a state has been targeted by hatred and terrorism for 80 years, and everybody insisted on them being patient and just live with it.

Being upset at the world and unwilling to engage in diplomacy is, thankfully, not a valid justification for ethnic cleansing and genocide.

> What's happening is sad, but it is not sadder than what preceded it.

The ongoing ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians is definitely sadder than what preceded it.

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Post by cess11 »

nahumfarchi wrote: post #63
adhamsalama wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Defending? You mean colonizing. And Israel literally did terrorist attacks on Jews in Arab countries to make them flee to the newly occupied land.

Sources?

The Baghdad bombings are well known.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950%E2%80%931951_Baghdad_bomb...

Nowadays I think the Lavon affair is less known, but it happened a couple of years before the emigration of jews from Egypt peaked in 1956.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

The zionist movement more or less invented modern terrorism and the state of Israel has always been a fervent sponsor of terrorism in Palestine and abroad. It has also consistently been a supporter of criminal, particularly genocidal, states, like apartheid South Africa, the tyranny in El Salvador and Guatemala, the timorese genocide, and so on.

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