Is this voice only, data only, or voice and data?
2G,3G,4G,5G?
For voice, is CS down, VoLTE down or both?
Article is not clear on this, but I mainly see voice call complaints?
UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage
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#82China watching with open eyes. This will happen the day that they try to take Taiwan, worldwide, in my opinion.
Why? They'll take down BT landlines in case I need to call my auntie and tell her about the news?
tbh breaking public internet/phones will probably be done by a local government trying to do something nasty. Stop people coordinating and turning up places they might get in the way.
I think my tin foil hat was askew. There. All better.
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#83It's just inbound calls to EE numbers (so if you've ported in you're not affected)
Even with a ported number, inbound call routing still heavily relies on the "number range" owner to direct the incoming call to the correct network. If the original number range owner has their subscriber database go down, they can't do the lookup for the network to direct the incoming call towards, so it can cause disruption. The same is true if the incoming signalling endpoints are unavailable, as the incoming call…
Tis what I meant - I have an EE MVNO SIM but originally an O2 number and I can recieve calls just fine.
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#84And now Starlink is down as well. I wonder if they are related.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: who gets to decide that some international forum is more important than residents’ use? - be it games, video calls, or whatever else.
The government has an authority to decide, according to the laws? By the way they also often block roads for security of important foreign guests and cause lot of traffic jams.
Well, yes. It’s the same kind of issue. AFAIK, these things are decided opaquely and do not follow any formal rules - which would make them ripe for abuse.
The GGP seemed to be ridiculing “those gamers who think their ping is more inportant”, but there is no way for a person to tell if the network limits, or road blocks for that matter, are reasonable or an instance of corruption.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Diff with Rogers is that they took out their entire network: cellular, home/biz internet, home phone, corporate circuits (including MPLS links), most cable TV, a bunch of their broadcast radio (AM/FM) network just dead dead dead. Well, their towers were sorta up (as they couldn’t remotely turn them off since the network was down), so if you had a Rogers SIM, a call to 9-1-1 wouldn’t failover to other networks because…
In a financial company I worked at we would do some of the biggest, riskiest changes at 5pm on a Friday (or Saturday evening if we were worried about impacting international trades). The logic being that we would have the most time to fix things before markets open monday.
Well this was like 6AM Friday Eastern time, soooo…
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
In a financial company I worked at we would do some of the biggest, riskiest changes at 5pm on a Friday (or Saturday evening if we were worried about impacting international trades). The logic being that we would have the most time to fix things before markets open monday.
Our release window is Saturday morning. All the support people are on, most users are not, gives us 36hrs. We absolutely do not release during week if we can help it. But we are traditional ERP application so pretty much everything we do is contrary to the HN/modern zeitgeist :-)
> All the support people are on
Either Rogers thinks it can’t make mistakes, or nobody was informed that a potential enterprise breaking change was taking place.
Took some hours to get any official indication from them (partly because of their employees dependency on the service they provide).
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#89It’s weird to me that the providers aren’t communicating to customers about this. What if you were waiting for a call from a doctor, or similar?
Seems to be the norm, unfortunately. I have a day’s worth of emails that were never delivered a few weeks ago due to an issue with Apple’s Hide My Email service, and AFAIK there hasn’t been any statement from Apple on the matter.
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#90Honestly I know this sound snarky but it’s 100% true - Three has become so unbelievably bad in East London lately I’d struggle to know if it was affected by this outage or if it was business as usual for them. I could go on about how broken their billing and app and site were but meh… need to change provider.
You reminded me that a couple of jobs ago (I tend to stay with jobs for a long time) we discovered that a local paging tower had failed because one of our techs could not receive pages at home. Our assumption was that we were basically the last people using their service in the area.