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Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by dnesting »

ericdiao wrote: post #29
LorenDB wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My personal choice for something like this would be Tailscale/Headscale. Runs over Wireguard and handles a ton of niceties like DNS for connected nodes automatically.

Yeah. I personally ran into the legacy setup issue for running vanilla Wireguard for my setup before Tailscale is a thing and have to manually manage keys, routing and DNS. But one thing Tailscale has that annoyed me is that they are using 100.64 CGNAT addresses (which is more RFC-compliant) but conflicts with one of my cloud service provider's pre-configured DNS, NTP and software mirrors setup. Using it became more…

You can change what IP addresses it uses: https://tailscale.com/kb/1304/ip-pool

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by kentonv »

lucideer wrote: post #46
kentonv wrote: post #28

Heh, of all arguably-valid definitions of "LAN Party" I think this one is as far away from mine as you can get. Traditional LAN party: Everyone brings their computers to one place to connect via a LAN, where they play games, swap files, demo stuff to each other, etc. My LAN party: All my friends come over to my house and use the computers that I have already set up for them. Nobody brings their own. The point is to i…

Funnily enough the (only) LAN parties I ever experienced "back in the day" were pretty similar to yours: 1. there was one smallish computer lab tucked under a stairs in the science department in university, in which all of the computers had been "compromised" in some fashion & games installed for student LAN parties. Mainly after hours for those living on campus. 2. In the first tiny little company I ever worked for…

Laptops??? There weren't gaming-capable laptops in the 90's, and besides that, the ultimate status symbol at a LAN party was lugging in your 80-pound 20" Sony Trinitron CRT.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by doubled112 »

kentonv wrote: post #82
lucideer wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funnily enough the (only) LAN parties I ever experienced "back in the day" were pretty similar to yours: 1. there was one smallish computer lab tucked under a stairs in the science department in university, in which all of the computers had been "compromised" in some fashion & games installed for student LAN parties. Mainly after hours for those living on campus. 2. In the first tiny little company I ever worked for…

Laptops??? There weren't gaming-capable laptops in the 90's, and besides that, the ultimate status symbol at a LAN party was lugging in your 80-pound 20" Sony Trinitron CRT.

I vividly remember the desk holding my 15" Trinitron slowly bending under the load, but I don't know what it would have weighed. I'd imagine that 20" was a bear to get out of the car and make your way inside with.

Similarly, I'm not sure how 13 or 14 year old me got a 27" Trinitron TV downstairs by myself. 34 year old me would need an entire bottle of Advil for sure.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by KTibow »

hkon wrote: post #50
kentonv wrote: post #28

Heh, of all arguably-valid definitions of "LAN Party" I think this one is as far away from mine as you can get. Traditional LAN party: Everyone brings their computers to one place to connect via a LAN, where they play games, swap files, demo stuff to each other, etc. My LAN party: All my friends come over to my house and use the computers that I have already set up for them. Nobody brings their own. The point is to i…

I think your definition/setup is the wrongest as it does not capture the spirit. You have a cyber café.

There's a slightly relevant response under "Dragging over your own computers is part of the fun of LAN parties. Why build them in?".

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by kentonv »

hkon wrote: post #50
kentonv wrote: post #28

Heh, of all arguably-valid definitions of "LAN Party" I think this one is as far away from mine as you can get. Traditional LAN party: Everyone brings their computers to one place to connect via a LAN, where they play games, swap files, demo stuff to each other, etc. My LAN party: All my friends come over to my house and use the computers that I have already set up for them. Nobody brings their own. The point is to i…

I think your definition/setup is the wrongest as it does not capture the spirit. You have a cyber café.

A cyber cafe would be full of strangers though.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by oceanhaiyang »

kentonv wrote: post #28

Heh, of all arguably-valid definitions of "LAN Party" I think this one is as far away from mine as you can get. Traditional LAN party: Everyone brings their computers to one place to connect via a LAN, where they play games, swap files, demo stuff to each other, etc. My LAN party: All my friends come over to my house and use the computers that I have already set up for them. Nobody brings their own. The point is to i…

That website was a very fun read :) what a cool place and so awesome to have so many friends to play with.

This line made me chuckle:

> I suggested to Jade: Should we move to Austin? Jade initially said no, because she wanted our kids to benefit from Palo Alto's school district. At the time, it was rated #12 in the nation. But, looking closer at the rankings revealed a surprise: The Eanes school district in Austin was #8. When I showed this to Jade, she changed her mind.

Could tell your wife was Chinese without even seeing the name. Chinese parents will made radical housing decisions for their children, even just to move from #12 to #8, lol. Love this.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by pimlottc »

ElevenLathe wrote: post #56
lucideer wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funnily enough the (only) LAN parties I ever experienced "back in the day" were pretty similar to yours: 1. there was one smallish computer lab tucked under a stairs in the science department in university, in which all of the computers had been "compromised" in some fashion & games installed for student LAN parties. Mainly after hours for those living on campus. 2. In the first tiny little company I ever worked for…

You just loaded up your enormous full tower PC and 17 inch CRT monitor in the back of your friend's brother's cousin's friend's station wagon, and made it happen. I had a Rubbermaid tub that I would use to lug the tower and all the necessary cables and accessories. A properly gaming-specced laptop would have been absurdly expensive (they still are) and a bit like cheating anyway.

Don’t forget your speakers! Got show off your highly refined collection of mp3s…

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by x2tyfi »

ericdiao wrote: post #10
CursedSilicon wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They probably use L2TP with IPsec to get Layer 2 transit. Doing that over Wireguard would require Gretep or something similar

Oh this make sense. For LAN, one definitely want L2. Totally overlooked the objective.

Why though?

The only use case I can imagine is a legacy game which performs a server search by broadcasting/scanning the local network. And even then - most of the time these games had server browsers.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by x2tyfi »

mattlondon wrote: post #24

Hypothetically, it be possible to achieve the same thing with a shared tailscale network, right? But can you kinda "federate" tailnets like this? So independent tailnets owned and run by individuals, but networked together into an inter-tailnet? You miss the fun and games of running your own DNS infra etc I guess.

This is one of those cases where the work is the fun. It just depends on your personal definition of ‘work’ and ‘fun’.
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